So i helped a buddy go car shopping...

**Pittman06** · 10-25-2009

no boost of any kind. A-1 Racing pistons, crower stage 2 cam, full port and polish, edelbrock performer x intake, b18c1 ported throttle body, venom injectors, aem cai, all crower valves and titanium retainers, bored .040, underdrive pulley, AEM lightwieght adjustable cam pulley, MSD external coil mod with taylor wires and NGK Iridium plugs, Magnaflow exhaust, Chikira header by hedman, SI trans with LS, Exedy stage 1 clutch, Fidanza 11 lb flywheel, Koni fully adjustable struts with H&R 1.8 springs, Greddy short shift with Greddy wieghted shift knob, Falken Hanabi 15x7.5 with Falken Ziex tires, all energy suspension bushings and motor mounts, and some more. Its been about 3 years since this one so i'm sure i've forgot alot. Heres a few pics of the old girl, not bad for 185k on the body

**Pittman06** · 10-25-2009

btw, 205 is not a guess, i ran it on a dyno outside of columbus with a few guys from ProbeTalk forums. they did a group dyno day on a mobile dyno and were not real happy when they saw that. I will try to find the slips tomorrow

**16MustangVet** · 10-25-2009

Pittman06 that would be nice car with a K20. Still have the car? Screw the others on here about taste and its a honda or what ever. You cna go fast with anything it depends on how deep your pockets are. Truth of the matter Id rock a Honda or a Subie or a d@mn audi for all I care as long as it was faster than my DD and Im sure it wouldnt take much to beat a bone stock GP GT. Some thing about a 2000lb car with a 300 hp engine that screams at 8K easily intrests me. As for Iron Indian "thank god I have taste in cars" havnt we been down that road before?? Even the Subie guys get respect at the drag strips once they spank a camaro or a mustang a few times. Grow up give some credit to the build and what the cars capable of instead of bashing who made the car in the 1st place.

**Poil336** · 10-26-2009

you realize you're on a grand prix forum right? as a general rule, we don't respect people who drive a honda. it's our nature just because of all the retarded ricers we see. the one up a few posts, that's different. build it right and it's called a tuner and just a different platform to play with. it's preference.

**matt5112** · 10-26-2009

There is zero logic in claiming that an engine which runs between 5-9K RPM versus one that runs between 3-6K will have less wear on the o-rings and possibly bearings in the long run.

Factor in practicality of racing an engine every time you move, they're about the same.

The real issue here is, if you're about muscle cars and even the GP, you like mid range torque and not having to rev to get some of it.

Top gear tested a Mistubishi Evo that was factory tuned for 400 BHP and put it in top gear and did the same with some small 1.*L econo-box and had a "drag race." Guess who won? The econo-box because the Evo has no torque to speak of. Sure after a while the evo will take off, but it sure takes a damn long time.

Thats pretty much what separates the muscle cars from the tuner cars, low end torque versus high end scream. Both can be made to go fast, one just seems to be a tad cheaper.

**ZR1Vette09** · 10-26-2009

Originally Posted by matt5112

Thats pretty much what separates the muscle cars from the tuner cars, low end torque versus high end scream. Both can be made to go fast, one just seems to be a tad cheaper.

Good way to put it. Though honestly it's kind of like a trend with aftermarket stuff too. You can do a whole lot of cheap parts that max out all your mods to get the power. Or you can spend a lot on a few well made parts to get the same power and you have room to mod some more.

**Pittman06** · 10-26-2009

exactly, and i respect anyone who will tastfully dump there entire savings into any car thats done well. I've done that honda (sold it 2 1/2 years ago btw), a few mustang fox bodys, G-body GMs, Ford trucks, Chevy trucks, i even had a 87 Subie that we mudded as well as my current lifted Cherokee along side my GTP, i have taste in all cars that are done right and well.

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