Jomamma's Bagged Red 97 GTP | Somethings Always Broken |

the LL0 motor was good, didn't blow headgaskets and burn oil like the SOHC model.

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Originally Posted by Smurf Diddler

Saturn is another brand that was mismanaged by GM. In the beginning (1990s) Saturn was like an experiment...that was working, then GM had to tinker with it. Saturn got its own factories, its own parts system, its own everything...the other brands like Buick and Caddy became jelly. When you went to a Saturn dealer...you didn't haggle, the price on the sticker was what you paid. It was sort of like Scion was supposed to be for Toyota but they ****ed that up too. You picked and pieced together all the stuff you wanted a la carte and paid the price. AND IT WORKED. GM got it in their head they knew better and just killed it.

An article came out today about Koenigsegg and their attempt to purchase Saab, they discussed all the things they watched GM do to make sure NOTHING worked out. They did the same **** to Pontiac FYI.

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You know the government told GM to trim the fat in order to receive the bailout...

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i love this car.

tankyew :)

your beater needs a ride height drop, lol

nawh, I actually just blew the front left brake hose on the saturn. Can't get it off, its seized on there pretty good. Probably gonna have to get it towed.

clamp it off with a pair of vise grips and get it in your driveway.

that f ing works ^^^^^ been there done that lol

That's pretty much what I did. I figure Ill just cut the line at the compression fitting cuz it wont come off.

Yay updates :)


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Originally Posted by Jomamma

Pontiac lost its niche in GM imo. All they had going for them was their styling, then they screwed that up once 2004 came rolling around when all the pontiacs looked almost identical to the Chevy equivalent.

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I agree 97-03 gp is Stylish, g6 looks like a Toyota especially the coupe and imo 04+ gps looks like someone wasn't even trying to make a pontiac.
:th_thumb-up:Dude your 97 is way too cool to be sitting still. keep us updated!

Stock cam is fine :(

Not tooooo bummed about it. After all, a S1X is going in. What ever it is that's causing the miss must be something rather simple at this point, some sort of short probably.

The aftermath
http://i.imgur.com/k76r10u.jpg

jesus man, it's been a while since I checked out some peoples build threads, but those few pics on pg 24, damn, lookin good,one of my fave GP's to date now... but you gotta do something with thoese exhaust tips...

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Originally Posted by Speedy1973

jesus man, it's been a while since I checked out some peoples build threads, but those few pics on pg 24, damn, lookin good,one of my fave GP's to date now... but you gotta do something with thoese exhaust tips...

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I'm about to send him my camaro ss tips 2015


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Originally Posted by theaceofspades

I'm about to send him my camaro ss tips 2015

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good, thoese stockers look like total crap

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Originally Posted by Speedy1973

you gotta do something with thoese exhaust tips...

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Yeah, thats what they all say. But that's on the bottom of the list.

First,

Finish up cam install
New motor mount and new spacer (last one was the wrong length and ate into the mount)
New pass cv axle ( remans never last, yaay warranty)
Fix misfire
Fix rear strut shaft bolts
Need to get a high flow cat or something I guess (inspection expired in January)
Put air suspension stuff the spare tire well and make a false floor
One of my LED tails is fvcking up
Fix my amplifier or buy a new one
passenger window motor is starting to take a sh!t
blower motor resistor, blower motor too probably
bunch of other stuff im sure
and all the way at the bottom are some nice g8 gxp exhaust tips.

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Originally Posted by Jomamma

Yeah, thats what they all say. But that's on the bottom of the list.

First,

get it running right
Finish up cam install
New motor mount and new spacer (last one was the wrong length and ate into the mount)
New pass cv axle ( remans never last, yaay warranty)
Fix misfire
Fix rear strut shaft bolts
Need to get a high flow cat or something I guess (inspection expired in January)
Put air suspension stuff the spare tire well and make a false floor
One of my LED tails is fvcking up
Fix my amplifier or buy a new one
passenger window motor is starting to take a sh!t
blower motor resistor, blower motor too probably
bunch of other stuff im sure
and all the way at the bottom are some nice g8 gxp exhaust tips.

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there fixed it for you

Just looked through your thread and love that stance, great looking car!!!

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Originally Posted by ericspecullaas

there fixed it for you

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no, no the order is right.... not gonna explain it but okay.

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Originally Posted by dezebe1

Just looked through your thread and love that stance, great looking car!!!

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Thanks man, I was just looking through your thread too. Your cars amazing, I wish i had access to a lift

This car is by far my favorite. Glad to see you got everything going good joe
We'll have a plan too
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