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    hey guys this is my first time posting on here, and i was jw how i could make my 97 grand prix V6 3800 faster but not spend a lot of money on it.
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    Safely Modding your 3800 thread, read it.
    Quote Originally Posted by W-Body Store
    Remember, GM engineers didn't take into account your need for speed.
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    You don't.

    Your year only 4T60e vacuum trans will die if you add more power.

    And I know your new, but you coulda tried reading on here first.

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    If you want more speed, you need to spend money.
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    I'll agree with FFDP, the vacuum controlled trannies in 1997's don't hold up to squat. If you wanna roll the dice and risk tearing it up by adding more power, then go ahead. Like they say, "money is only money right?" After all, it'd be your money not mine.

    Either way, I will be nice and give you the link for the Safely Modding Your 3800 Thread.
    http://www.grandprixforums.net/safel...car-17482.html

    I think you had better leave it alone for now, but either way the above linked thread does contain a lot of good information and is worth a read-through.
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    well i know that but i was jw if there was way to get more power by not spending as much money but it dont really matter it looks like cuz of what Fivefingerdeathpunch said. so i guess if i wanted more power i would have to get a different motor or just get a gtp or the gxp
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    get a topswap, Heads, Blower, LIM, pullies. and WEEEEEEE
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    get a topswap, Heads, Blower, LIM, pullies. and WEEEEEEE
    Annnnd then get ready to put a new transmission in your '97 because I'd highly doubt that it will take that added abuse for very long.

    The transmissions in 98+ cars are better, and quite a few people on here have minor mods on their cars with no major problems. As I'm sure you know though the more you ask out of the car, any car in fact, the more likely it is to break/quit working properly.
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    lol thats what i thought about doing was the top swap but is it the best way to go by things. and thank you to 98L36 for the info ill probably do the basic things that my car needs and then try to get down and dirty with the speed.
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    so basicly just fix what needs to be fixed on the engin and make the car look pretty lol
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    Making it look cool is going to be harder than making it faster.
    Quote Originally Posted by W-Body Store
    Remember, GM engineers didn't take into account your need for speed.
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    why u say that
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    In my opinion visual mods are the best mods. But yes, first priority should go to the engine/transmission and making sure that they are fixed up and running good. My personal car is visual only, I'd rather not take the risk (or spend the money) trying to make a 14 year old car faster than what it was originally.
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    Its a 15 year old grocery getter...Technically 16 as of September/October.

    Why not just drive it and save your money for something better?
    Quote Originally Posted by W-Body Store
    Remember, GM engineers didn't take into account your need for speed.
    Daily Driver: 06 Grand Prix GT / 9.4:1 CR / IS3 Heads / Ported Gen V / ZZP Headers / HPT Pro / Pulleys: 4.25, 3.8, 3.5, 3.4, 3.2, 3.0, 2.9, 2.7
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    ok well thanks to you all you have all been a lot of help to me. i would like my car to look nice and run faster but i see on your point about it being 14 years and shouldnt really mass with it much. so thanks to u all learning a lot already
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    and well thats the thing i want to kinda trade my car in for a 2005 or so gxp but i have been reading about how they get hot fast and dont really have much background on the modding part of it so what do you all think about the GXP
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    GXPs are nice, and have a fair amount of power from the factory. The LS4s they put in them do have issues with water pumps going bad prematurely. If you buy used, this may have already been taken care of.

    Since you're not planning on buying one right away, take your time to do more research and find out if it's really what you want. If you decide it is, start reading about modifications you would want for it. You'll find a lot of good GXP info on LS1tech.
    Quote Originally Posted by W-Body Store
    Remember, GM engineers didn't take into account your need for speed.
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    ok cool thank you
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    Quote Originally Posted by 98L36 View Post
    In my opinion visual mods are the best mods. But yes, first priority should go to the engine/transmission and making sure that they are fixed up and running good. My personal car is visual only, I'd rather not take the risk (or spend the money) trying to make a 14 year old car faster than what it was originally.
    What's your excuse then?




    To the OP, Visual "mods" on these cars....Forget em. It's the literal definition of polishing a turd.

    Get a 98-00 GTP (as in factory supercharged) and start from there. Anything else unless you're an expert with these cars is one step forward two steps back.
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    errbody is being such a debbie downer.
    true, a gtp will be easier to mod. but at the same time...you will wind up having to replace the trans in those as well. because they still suck.
    you only have a 4t60 if you have a GT or an SE. if you have a gtp, well guess what, you have the 4t65 for a trans.
    so OP there are a few options you can take. you can find a junkyard trans 4t65 for cheap, put it in your car, and then do a headers and a top swap and a tune, or if you already have a gtp you can get headers/intake/drop to a smaller pulley.
    but remember, whenever you do ANY pulley dropping/serious mods, you will NEED a tune.
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