Water in floorboard (Take 2) - The Permanent Fix

**Teancum** · 03-04-2009

Gotta say I just got around to installing this the other day, and it's awesome. I took my laptop out into the garage and followed the directions right off the web. Took me 20 minutes. My one piece of advice is to make sure you actually have a good forked tool to pull the two cowling pins off (this was mentioned in the instructions). I didn't and it took me a lot longer to do with the tools I had. With the right tool (~5-10 dollars, or you can borrow one) it would have cut 15 minutes off my time. No joke.

Thanks for the awesome product Abrasive.

**momo29** · 03-04-2009

i want one too. i dont like a live well inside my car. lol. email me when you get enuff for everyone else first,then let me know.teflondon1@netzero.net

**krameraxe** · 03-06-2009

I would like one. Can you send the info for ordering it?

Thanks,
Krameraxe

**Abrasive** · 03-06-2009

Replied to your PM. Just drop Reptile a note and he can get you squared away.

**krameraxe** · 03-06-2009

Thank You! Look forward to getting it.

**Reptile** · 03-07-2009

Responded Krameraxe, I'll get you fixed up!

**krameraxe** · 03-07-2009

Thanks man, Payment has been sent. I look forward to getting it.

**genmo** · 03-08-2009

I'm still reading up on this, but I think it will help/solve my problem.
One quick question though...tax for MO residents?

**Boosted02GTP** · 03-09-2009

Payment + PM sent!!

**Reptile** · 03-09-2009

Originally Posted by genmo

I'm still reading up on this, but I think it will help/solve my problem.
One quick question though...tax for MO residents?

No tax. I take care of all that + the shipping. Basically by the time it's all said and done, I barely break even on these.

**RedLedbetter** · 03-09-2009

i already PM'd you, but can i order one?

**Boosted02GTP** · 03-09-2009

After reading every page and ordering one of these there was no story how this came about. I mean did you make these on CAD and have someone make a mold? Whats the history of how these were born?

**kdubhoffy** · 03-09-2009

GM would have to tell you that because it is a genuine GM part that can be purchased at any GM dealer for less then 5 bucks. Maybe Reptile can provide everyone with the part # so everyone can benfit from this fix. People are losing there jobs, the economy stinks, I dont see the need to charge people 15 bucks for a part that can be purchased for 5 bucks.

**Abrasive** · 03-09-2009

They are an already produced part for another car. With a little modification, they will fit ours perfectly. The dealer will rarely have these in stock since they are not a part that "goes bad" per say and usually have to order it in. We offered them on hand, in stock, shipped to your door cheaper and faster than if you ordered them online from the parts warehouse. Saving valuable time, especially if you are waiting for the next rain storm to hit and flood your car again.

Unfortunately, those of you got one from us probably got one of the last ones we will ship out. Too many people were hung up by the fact they could go to the dealer, have them order it, make another trip, pick it up, then install it themselves cheaper. We offered convenience and quickness and made nothing monetary wise for the effort. I was getting them to some people within 2 days of their order and they didn't have to do a thing but wait for it to arrive in the mail and install it. We didn't make a dime, but some people think that we were out to get them since they could get them somewhere else and save a few pennies, but not calculate in the legwork they were going to have to do to get it. Unless they live next door to the dealer, they probably spent more getting it than if they had us ship it to them. Not to mention the time they had to spend going there and back running it down. It's just not worth the trouble. Sorry guys.

Compare our price and our delivery time to gmpartsdirect and you will see that we were trying to do everyone a favor here. They are a few cents higher, but if you have ever ordered anything from them, you would understand the value of how quickly we got these to the buyers who didn't want to go through 2 or 3 more rainstorms before it arrived.

So with that, we will no longer be offering these. The GM part is #15794785

**FastKatt** · 03-09-2009

That's a shame... You were doing us a great service
I'm glad I got mine & want to say "Thanks!"

**Abrasive** · 03-09-2009

Thanks FastKatt.

Originally Posted by kdubhoffy

GM would have to tell you that because it is a genuine GM part that can be purchased at any GM dealer for less then 5 bucks. Maybe Reptile can provide everyone with the part # so everyone can benfit from this fix. People are losing there jobs, the economy stinks, I dont see the need to charge people 15 bucks for a part that can be purchased for 5 bucks.

Since this was posted before I got my last post finished, I will go ahead and respond. No need to blame Reptile, you'll see I am the original poster. The one who discovered that it fit our cars with a little modification, and the one who took the time to figure out what needed to be done to make it work. Then took the time to do a detailed write-up so everyone else wouldn't have to figure it out for themselves. If I hadn't spent the last 15 years in the auto glass industry fixing the floorboard lake at least once a week for customers then no one would have even known the part existed once I found it for myself. Also, no where in this entire thread did I ever say it wasn't available elsewhere. Never claimed to be the inventor or did I claim to make them. Here's what I did say in the very first post of the thread....

I am more than happy to get one for you for $15 shipped.

To get one for you, not make you one. People wanted them, I could get them fast and get them to them fast. I doubt you'll find any complaints. As I said, we were still cheaper than gmpartsdirect and got them to buyers 4-5 times faster, if not more. As for the price markup you mentioned, I'm sure you'll see if you buy much of anything that businesses don't usually make it a habit of selling you anything for what it cost them. Most aren't going to tell you who their supplier is either. $5 part plus sometimes as much as $8 to ship plus packing materials when needed, and the time involved for me to get them ready to ship and take them to the post office the very next day. Everything went back into getting them shipped out. So, in that, we did sell them for what they were costing us, and then some. We were literally overwhelmed by it at times and contemplated many times on why we were even trying to do it. Fact is, I sent several people the part number when we were just simply too busy to get them shipped out fast enough or they were out of the country and it wouldn't have been cost effective for them to get one from us. So, while you're at it, you can go ahead and mention the fact that companies sell reusable rocker arm bolts that anyone can go to Westlakes/Ace hardware and get themselves for about a $1 each. Oh, and when someone decides to pay extra for "anti-pogo" washers for the tops of their struts, take a long hard look at your cradle washers, a genuine GM part.

If you did get this part from the dealer, who was going to help you if you ran into problems? The part isn't even for the car you are using it on. Think the dealer would help? Maybe, but a long shot. Ask FastKatt who tried to help when he had an issue with his cowling after installing this. I did. Even went as far as to take pics of another Grand Prix with a similar issue that didn't have the part installed to show that it wasn't the part causing it at all.

If anyone gets this GM part #15794785 themselves and still has issues with fitment or continuing water on the floor, I'll STILL be here to help out.

**RedLedbetter** · 03-10-2009

thanks man, ill go check my local dealer. this was a help to us all

**kdubhoffy** · 03-10-2009

Originally Posted by Abrasive

Thanks FastKatt.

Since this was posted before I got my last post finished, I will go ahead and respond. No need to blame Reptile, you'll see I am the original poster.

I wasnt blaming reptile. I simply stated "perhaps reptile can provide the part #"

The one who discovered that it fit our cars with a little modification, and the one who took the time to figure out what needed to be done to make it work. Then took the time to do a detailed write-up so everyone else wouldn't have to figure it out for themselves.

Thats great that you did this but there are lots of people that have posted write-ups on mods and asked for nothing in return.

If I hadn't spent the last 15 years in the auto glass industry fixing the floorboard lake at least once a week for customers then no one would have even known the part existed once I found it for myself. Also, no where in this entire thread did I ever say it wasn't available elsewhere. Never claimed to be the inventor or did I claim to make them. Here's what I did say in the very first post of the thread....

But you also failed to mention these could be purchased at any Gm dealer for 3.50. Why didnt you provide a part # and let the rest of your fellow members decide for themselves if they would like it shipped from you for $15 or purchased themselves for $3.50

To get one for you, not make you one. People wanted them, I could get them fast and get them to them fast. I doubt you'll find any complaints. As I said, we were still cheaper than gmpartsdirect and got them to buyers 4-5 times faster, if not more.

Seriously, who cares about GMdirect. These could be purchased from any dealer. Most dealers could get these overnight.

As for the price markup you mentioned, I'm sure you'll see if you buy much of anything that businesses don't usually make it a habit of selling you anything for what it cost them. Most aren't going to tell you who their supplier is either. $5 part plus sometimes as much as $8 to ship plus packing materials when needed, and the time involved for me to get them ready to ship and take them to the post office the very next day. Everything went back into getting them shipped out. So, in that, we did sell them for what they were costing us, and then some. We were literally overwhelmed by it at times and contemplated many times on why we were even trying to do it

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If you were not profiting from this then why were you doing it? Why not just post the part number in your write-up and be done with it?

Fact is, I sent several people the part number when we were just simply too busy to get them shipped out fast enough or they were out of the country and it wouldn't have been cost effective for them to get one from us. So, while you're at it, you can go ahead and mention the fact that companies sell reusable rocker arm bolts that anyone can go to Westlakes/Ace hardware and get themselves for about a $1 each. Oh, and when someone decides to pay extra for "anti-pogo" washers for the tops of their struts, take a long hard look at your cradle washers, a genuine GM part

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So this makes what you did justifiable? Others are scamming so why not?

If you did get this part from the dealer, who was going to help you if you ran into problems? The part isn't even for the car you are using it on. Think the dealer would help? Maybe, but a long shot. Ask FastKatt who tried to help when he had an issue with his cowling after installing this. I did. Even went as far as to take pics of another Grand Prix with a similar issue that didn't have the part installed to show that it wasn't the part causing it at all.

If anyone gets this GM part #15794785 themselves and still has issues with fitment or continuing water on the floor, I'll STILL be here to help out.

Im sorry, I just dont buy your lame excuses. I have read lots of write ups where the poster will include the part number to help others out. ie f-body brake install. I think your as shady as they come.

**RedLedbetter** · 03-10-2009

Im sorry, I just dont buy your lame excuses. I have read lots of write ups where the poster will include the part number to help others out. ie f-body brake install. I think your as shady as they come.

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Are you for real? Abrasive was just helping us out. i believe in no way was he scamming us. the part from GM is 3.50 but you have yet to factor in shipping. Abrasive was getting this part to people for 15$ flat in TWO days, while GM was charging $15.03 and who knows when you would recieve it. Its a no brainer to me. Abrasive was helping out the community members, so back off bro.

**kdubhoffy** · 03-10-2009

Originally Posted by redprix

^^^^^^
Are you for real? Abrasive was just helping us out. i believe in no way was he scamming us. the part from GM is 3.50 but you have yet to factor in shipping. Abrasive was getting this part to people for 15$ flat in TWO days, while GM was charging $15.03 and who knows when you would recieve it. Its a no brainer to me. Abrasive was helping out the community members, so back off bro.

Factor in shipping? Drive to a GM dealer and pick it up? FOR $3.50! Wow, the ignorance is unreal. back off bro....pfffff