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    They are identical, so you can swap them and see which one works. Or, because the drivers side is such a PITA to change, you can buy another actuator from rockauto.com ( you've seen the commercials, they ARE low price!) for ~$30 and just change the passenger side, which is real easy to get to. I'd inspect the operation of the passenger side actuator first though to see if it's actually working or not, first with it still mounted, if it doesn't move with changing the temp slider, take it off but leave it plugged in and watch if it moves. You can check if the blend door moves freely when the actuator is off.
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    I have a 2006 Grand Prix with the 3800 in it with a standard HVAC (single zone and manual temperature change). The heater will only blow lukewarm air (at best). I have checked the coolant level, changed the thermostat, and verified that the blend door is free and the actuator is working properly. I have also checked the heater core supply and return hoses. The supply line has good pressure and runs hot, however the return only trickles coolant when I disconnect it. It's been too cold for me to flush the system. Does this sound like a clogged heater core? In my research it doesn't look like there is a heater control valve, which sounded like a good solution to me. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coolio View Post
    I have a 2006 Grand Prix with the 3800 in it with a standard HVAC (single zone and manual temperature change). The heater will only blow lukewarm air (at best). I have checked the coolant level, changed the thermostat, and verified that the blend door is free and the actuator is working properly. I have also checked the heater core supply and return hoses. The supply line has good pressure and runs hot, however the return only trickles coolant when I disconnect it. It's been too cold for me to flush the system. Does this sound like a clogged heater core? In my research it doesn't look like there is a heater control valve, which sounded like a good solution to me. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.

    you need to flush the core.

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    I flushed my heater core and now it works. Of course, it's difficult to flush it out in the middle of the winter when it's cold. I used air, which worked pretty well and was able to do it entirely in my garage without making much of a mess. The link below does a good job walking you through it. Thanks for the help Scottydoggs!

    Unclogging A Heater Core - EricTheCarGuy - YouTube
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    Quote Originally Posted by meangene View Post
    Could you please post instructions for a single climate control system?

    Both Heater core hoses are hot, so I assume this is the problem. When temp is set to hot, flow is low and lukewarm, when I switch temperature setting to cold, flow increases and turns cold. Does this seem like a Blend Door Actuator problem?

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    Meangene, did you get this fixed and what was done? I have the exact same issue.
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    Wow, this operation seems MAJOR. Wonder what the auto repair shops charge where they use that guy who has the small hands.

    I have a 1992 Grand Prix that's always been a great car until we brought it out of storage. Suddenly, the heater works (warm air good) and fans work (range of speeds 1 thru 4 also good) and the Off switch works in terms of shutting off the fans but the problem is that it doesn't matter if I push the button for 'heat', 'vent', or 'defrost', etc; the air is pretty well split between the floor and the windshield and never goes full floor, full vent, full defrost, etc. And worst part now, the AC doesn't work either.

    Here's a picture of the control: http://home.nctv.com/ajns/92GrandPrixHeaterControl.jpg

    I have air blowing through the heater (at bottom floor board area) and defrost ducts at the same time but haven't been able to get the heat through the dash 'vent' locations and have been advised that the "blend door actuator" is probably the reason. Is there a way to 'cheat' the system and run a work around to get the AC compressor to work without going through a major job of tearing into the dash (and then risk it being something else anyway... ) ?

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    1999 GP SE Single zone A/C I got under the dash with the plastic and insulator off and when I change the setting from floor vent to normal and then defrost I don't see the actuator rotate. I am going to presume this is the actuator that is bad. Looks like I'm going to need a trained rhesus monkey that can talk to replace this part. Any suggestions?
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    the blend door actuator controls heat or a/c. its what makes the air warm to hot or cold.

    the part that moves the air flow direction is the round vac pump part, its round in the lower right of the pic in the first post.

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    Thanks, I should start checking for vacuum leaks?
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    theres a vac line off the engine to the fire wall on the pass side. make sure its hooked up, (it makes the air flow direction work) not sure where it goes on your engine.

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    Hmmmm, all vacuum lines seem to be in place from what I can tell. Any other ideas?
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    I hope someone could help me with problem. I have a 99 GTP with the dual climate digital a/c and it will not blow out any air. You turn the temp to 60 and you here everything clicking and moving but no air at all is coming out at all, not even the sound of air running. BUT still hear everything turning and clicking when cycling through the modes or turning the a/c from auto and increasing fan speeds.. BUT NO AIR BLOWING OR SOUND OF AIR at all...

    I tried holding both buttons down doing the diagnostic and i got -115 at the -0 prompt. which would lead me to believe there was a actuator problem.. hit the auto button and reset the system and haven't been able to get any codes back. I tried removing the HVAC fuse for 1 minute and then replacing it then not running system for a minute.. still no glory. Could a bad LH Actuator cause A/C not to blow ANY air? or cause the blower not to turn on?

    Anyone have any other suggestions? my next step is trying to get at the blower resistor plug and trying to see if i can get any voltage with a multimeter?? am I heading in the right direction? ANY help would be appreciated.

    ARE my colors for the wires correct?
    Wires to Blower Motor:
    Purple: ??
    Black: ??

    Wires to Blower Control Module:
    Orange: ??
    Black: ??
    Gray:??

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    the blend doors control only the mix of hot and or cold air. sounds like you have a bad fan or resistor.

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    so you dont have to calibrate the blend door actuator? i remember back in school, you had to calibrate them, or they would wig out and go back and forth or try and keep turning when vent was already closed or full open and break itself.

    i see some dial lines on the case of the actuator and slots to use a flat head to turn it.
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    i plugged them in, then worked the heat to cold. ( watched it working) turn it to full cold, or hot, then turn the knob the same way, slap it back on.

    taking the battery off for 30 minutes can reset them sometimes if they are doing the freak out deal.

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    thanks. FYI swapping digital hvac contol modules fixed my problem with air blowing out of all vents, now replacing blend actuators and charging AC

    will report back with further findings.

    p.s. im not getting air out of the furthest passenger vent. i swapped vac pump, have not tested yet. still have everything apart. any other ideas just in case this does not fix?

    FYI my original HVAC module had a green display and has a A/C button, this module has red dispplay and "ECON" in place of the "A/C" button. it came out of a 98 model, i have a 97, dontn know if that would have anything to do with no air out of further passenger vent.
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    did air used to come out of it? maybe its clogged with a mouse nest, yuck......

    the air is carried by plastic ducks and flex tubes, maybe it fell off the back of the vent? or ripped.

    while its all a part now would be a good time to look and make sure.

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    my passenger side actuator had a cracked gear, replaced it but im having trouble getting them to close the doors completely. plus im back to air blowing through all vents, its very frustrating, and module does not switch from recirc to outside and vice versa. all vac lines are right, no leaks. im about to sell this damn car.

    if anyone would, take a picture of the blend door actuator open so i can see the inside gears, so i can manually calibrate mine, ive messed mine up and need to see where the position sensor gear is relative to the drive gear.
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    also can someone take a pipc of the interior fuse block with the HVAC Control fuse (20a) should there be two pins the fuse plugs into. mine only has one terminal the fuse plugs into. could this be the reason im not getting mode actuator movement? but my HVAC Module has display and moves the temp actuators.
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    you could test the plugs to the actuators for power.

    inside is just a bunch of gears, a big one and a smaller one. looks kinda like a gear reduction set up.

    you can turn the actuator with a fat screw driver, put it in the hole and turn it. ( slowly) no need to take it apart to calibrate anything. it either works or dont. like i said, i plugged my used ones in and worked the controls hot to cold to make sure it worked. they only move a small amount. and slowly.

    after you take your off, make sure the little knob it turns turns freely too.

    and if you pull that fuse if your climate control goes black, the fuse is working right.

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