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    Yeah I'm gonna search it now. Thanks for the help
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    Since I don't care about not having ac is there a way to bypass it by using a smaller belt and routing it differently?
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    You can buy an A/C dummy pulley. aka a/c bypass pulley.

    If the A/c worked before it locked up, you could try and replace just the bearing while it's still in the car, they cost like $17, less than a bypass pulley.
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    Well thought I had it figured out. Pulley moves without belt on and when trying to start the car without either belt it sounds really rough
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    Alright had a buddy try to spray maf cleaner in the intake while I tried starting it and didn't get a backfire or anything. Seems I'm getting plenty of fuel but may be not enough compression? I'm waiting on a compression tester so I drained the oil and mo metal anywhere so I don't think anything is broken in the bottom end. I'm so lost here.
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    Also does a crank sensor just go bad without showing signs of it failing. Doesn't the tach jump around or something like that or some other clues leading towards crank sensor other than it just won't start.

    Another thought is could there be anyway that's its the new pcm I put in like 3 1/2 weeks ago. Just weird cuz it has been running so good lately and then all of the sudden it dies and won't start again.
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    Maybe check your PCM connection. Go back over anything you have disturbed lately and make sure it's how you left it. Might just be a loose connection somewhere. And yes, crank position sensors can just up and die. The tach dropping to 0 before the car stops running thing is just a good indication of it failing.
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    Yeah I checked the connections at the pcm already and every sensor I could get to fairly easily. I really wish the car would at least throw a code. It would make this easier lol
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    take a plug wire off the coil, prop it like a inch above the coil, now crank the engine, a spark should jump from the coil to the wire. if no spark that means you have a spark problem. icm, crank sensor. theres a ground wire for the icm bolted to the side of the head, make sure its still there and not broken off or something.

    the fuel rail has a valve on the front of it with a black cap on it, take the cap off put a rag over the hole then push the valve in with a screw driver, fuel should spray out if you have FP, nothing will come out if there little to no pressure.

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    Thanks scotty. I've already checked all coils plugs and wires. All have spark and the ground for the icm is still good. Fuel shoots outta the rail good so I know I have fuel. The only thing I'm unsure on is my compression. Car will turn over forever just won't fire and doesn't even act like it wants to
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    take the icm off, get it tested at the parts store ( its free) they can spark, but not spark right. maybe get a JY replacement, they are cheap used, new not so cheap.

    98 Buick Regal GS, F body brakes, Caddy STS wheels, tinted tails L36 bottom end, lightly ported heads, 1.95 roller rockers, headers, gen 5 N* 3.0 pulley, FSIC, 42 lb injectors, a BrandonHall rebuilt trans, DHP tuned and AEM water/Meth injection https://goo.gl/gpV5kW
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    I wouldn't worry about checking compression now. Have the ICM checked at the parts store.
    Squirrels are my engine. I need a Ford Regal
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    Ninja'd by Scotty >_<
    Squirrels are my engine. I need a Ford Regal
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    Alright ill pop it off tonight and get it tested after work tomorrow. Thanks guys
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    Is there just three bolts underneath the icm that hold it down and do I want to leave the coil packs on to take it to get tested? Sorry so many questions just learning as I go here
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    Yup and use the little I believe 5.5 mm that holds the harness and you leave the coils off
    Squirrels are my engine. I need a Ford Regal
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    Yeah I ended up getting it. I get off at three and I'm gonna get it tested. A guy at work said he had similar problem and timing chain had popped off. Would the car be turning over without timing chain?
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    Doubtful. Chances of timing chain jumping over slim to none.
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    Squirrels are my engine. I need a Ford Regal
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    Good. I didn't think so but thought I'd ask
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    Icm tested good 3 times in a row. At a loss again. Any suggestions welcome
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