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    I would NOT rebuild the motor... LOL Unless you have machine shops local to you that aren't as proud as the ones here.. OMG... I finally got my phone call regarding my build from the machine shop.. I almost dropped the phone.. I ran down there and told them NO and WTH are you doing? Well they quoted me a complete build and it was a tad over $3,000. and a standard build was a lil under $2000.. I still said no, just do my heads...

    Start to finish, valve job, new seals, clean, blah blah (plus they cleaned my L67 Intake and block and magnafluxed all the parts) I will get out of there for $335.

    Option B for me since mine had to be bored, I found a low mileage L26 out of a 2007 model Buick that I managed to get for $500. I'll build it to as I planned instead of my L36 that I pulled from the car.
    1999 GPGT - L26, Ported Top Swap, XP Cam, 3.2 MPS, 42.5#, N*, LQ4, SD Headers, Double Roller, TEP Race Trans w/Stand alone Cooler, Precision Industries 3000RPM Stall, 75 Shot Nitrous Express Proton Kit w/Purge, 3" Dual Borla Pro XS, Corsa Dual 3.5 Tips, 5% Tint
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    Yeahhh deff not spending 3k lol. But honestly if I could get the block prepped for a rebuild...rebuild it myself...then have them balance the rotating assembly, that would be what I would Do...Option B for me is also a low mileage motor...I can get one for $400
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    I got to looking at the estimate they gave me again... Instead of buying one rod to replace the one that broke, they were quoting me 6 Eagle H beam rods.... :-/ Really..... I was tired of dealing with the shop. They had my motor for over 3 weeks and finally called me. But that's my two cents... you can look at the thread "Rebirth of my Grand Prix" or some lame title like that, I just posted pics of the L26 I got. The yard had 7 more. He knocked off a lil over $100 for me because he gripped and gripped about the 3800's saying he can't sale them because they are such good motors.. They range in mileage from 3,600 to I believe the highest mileage one he had was 52K. Come on down, we'll have lunch :-D
    1999 GPGT - L26, Ported Top Swap, XP Cam, 3.2 MPS, 42.5#, N*, LQ4, SD Headers, Double Roller, TEP Race Trans w/Stand alone Cooler, Precision Industries 3000RPM Stall, 75 Shot Nitrous Express Proton Kit w/Purge, 3" Dual Borla Pro XS, Corsa Dual 3.5 Tips, 5% Tint
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    lmao i'll leave now...be down there by sunday lol jk. But i'll give that thread a look. I just want to do this motor right so I don't have to do it all over again lol
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    Oh believe me, I understand!!! I was very uneasy about using the stock L36 rods with a top swap and XP cam considering I have already broken two rods. First rod broke because water from a bad UIM doesn't compress well. Rod two broke for, well only god knows that one because i sure as heck don't. I was going to buy the L26 rods to put in my motor BUT I didn't want to spend the extra $350 (yeah I know spend what I have and didn't want to buy them...)... The L26 I believe will be a much better platform to build and it's already broken in!!
    1999 GPGT - L26, Ported Top Swap, XP Cam, 3.2 MPS, 42.5#, N*, LQ4, SD Headers, Double Roller, TEP Race Trans w/Stand alone Cooler, Precision Industries 3000RPM Stall, 75 Shot Nitrous Express Proton Kit w/Purge, 3" Dual Borla Pro XS, Corsa Dual 3.5 Tips, 5% Tint
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    I was quoted around 6-800 Dollars for just the machining on the block, heads, and rods....I found a Motor for $400 with 133k on It...debating on which way i should go now...
    1997 Grand prix GT Black Coupe- The beater
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    Just buy a motor. Not worth it rebuilding what you have.
    98 GTP modded 1.9's, sd headers, 3.4", zzp 1.0 230K miles scrapped.
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    Found a guy who estimated me $850 for a rebuild so I may go that route. Found a s2 for $500 w 122k as my second option.
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    Check out this site for your area and you might have to drive a few extra miles, but it might be worth it.. This is where I found my motor..

    Car-Part.com--Used Auto Parts Market
    1999 GPGT - L26, Ported Top Swap, XP Cam, 3.2 MPS, 42.5#, N*, LQ4, SD Headers, Double Roller, TEP Race Trans w/Stand alone Cooler, Precision Industries 3000RPM Stall, 75 Shot Nitrous Express Proton Kit w/Purge, 3" Dual Borla Pro XS, Corsa Dual 3.5 Tips, 5% Tint
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    From a quick search I found this.. I'm not sure where in MI you are, but LKQ delivers to shops reasonable.. and there were 2+ pages of L26 motors for $400 - $600 range with under 100K miles. This is if you want to go with a L26, you might not want to. I just went that route due to the rods being better quality. Hope it helps man!!!



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    hell ya man!! Thank you
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    hell ya man!! Thank you
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbextreme View Post
    From a quick search I found this.. I'm not sure where in MI you are, but LKQ delivers to shops reasonable.. and there were 2+ pages of L26 motors for $400 - $600 range with under 100K miles. This is if you want to go with a L26, you might not want to. I just went that route due to the rods being better quality. Hope it helps man!!!
    L26 rods are the absolute worst 3800 rods you can get by a large margin.
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    ^^How many miles on that l67 you have?
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorizon View Post
    L26 rods are the absolute worst 3800 rods you can get by a large margin.
    That's the first I've heard of this... Seems like everywhere I have read and who I've talked to say the PM rods are better quality and after halfway through 05 (or 04) all Series III motors had them... ALSO, I have snapped not one, but two L36 rods. If I blow the L26 up then I guess I'll go with the H beam...
    1999 GPGT - L26, Ported Top Swap, XP Cam, 3.2 MPS, 42.5#, N*, LQ4, SD Headers, Double Roller, TEP Race Trans w/Stand alone Cooler, Precision Industries 3000RPM Stall, 75 Shot Nitrous Express Proton Kit w/Purge, 3" Dual Borla Pro XS, Corsa Dual 3.5 Tips, 5% Tint
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    whats up kidd hows the car coming out question how much did i cost to mill ur heads
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