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  1. #1 Injector cleaning, yes or no? 
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    So I have a set of L67 injectors here that I have for my top swap. They came on the fuel rail, but one was damaged during shipping. The o-ring retainer at the end is completely crushed and the tip of the injector is cracked. FedEx is reimbursing me the cost of a replacement plus a little extra.

    Anyway, these injectors are off an 03 L67 and have about 80k miles. I can get a replacement from Ed for about $25. Do you feel it is worth it to send them to some place for $16-18 an injector to have them cleaned and flow matched? Fairly steep bill for it considering I could just put them on.

    Anyone think the flow will be that different to warrant it? Anything I can do myself? Any suggestions of good places to have this done?
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    Personally I would do it if I had the chance to, it kinda puts your mind at ease knowing that all of your injectors flow alike. Here is a link that might shed some light on this procedure.

    Fuel Injector Cleaning
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    My main issue is that they're stock injectors, and I don't want to put that kind of money into them just to have to replace them again down the road with larger ones. Though, I don't see me needing anything larger until I get an IC.

    I found that page you linked me to before, and they were some of the more expensive ones.
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    Yeah I know what you mean, but remember the ones you are putting in have 80k on them. Who knows how they were treated or if they were ever cleaned. I can see the value in flow matching tho. If it were me. I wouldn't bother flow matching them, just clean them up the best I could and run them. Oh yeah, not sure if you covered this already but make sure you change the injector o-rings.
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    I already removed and trashed the old o-rings. I have the lowers, just need to find a set of uppers.

    The trouble is finding a place that will just clean them, and if I'm going through the trouble might as well make sure they flow the same. Don't want one cylinder running lean on a higher compression block.

    I might go ahead with it anyway. At what point to the stock injectors usually need to be swapped?
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    I just ran em, mine had 90k on em
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    Quote Originally Posted by 02BlueGT View Post
    I just ran em, mine had 90k on em
    But I'm introducing one that I don't know the mileage of. That's what started the dilemma.
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    How much is it for a whole set?, for $16 bux each(almost $100), you could probably find a complete used set, maybe even a set of 42.5's
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    Ed sells them for $25 each. Not sure if he'd come down on a whole set or not.

    I already have these that I paid for. And if I went the cleaning route I know they'd be perfectly matched and 100% just like if they were new. If I bought used, even 42.5lbs, then there is still a good chance of decent deposits.

    I'll look into it, though.
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    He sells the L32 ones for $75 a set and the L36 ones for $50 a set, you could probably just get a set,

    Or have the ones you have cleaned, peace of mind is usually worth way more than it costs
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    Yeah, knowing me if they're used I'd rather know than not know. I'm thinking I'll buy a set of ZZP's L67 injectors since they're cleaned, flow matched, and have all new o-rings. Then, I get $50 for turning in my five injectors. So it costs me $110 plus shipping to do all this, and I don't have to pay the $25 for a new injector.
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    One more thing to help me make my decision. I saw on Intense's site that the stock L67 injectors are good up to around 300WHP. True?

    If so I can probably stay on the stock injectors for a while. Even top swapped it'd take a hell of a lot more than what I'll be running to hit that much. I'll probably get larger injectors when/if I got a IC and need to change out the rail.
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    i didnt waste time with stock L67 injectors i bought 42.5's from ZZP brand new, after blowing up my GN motor 3 times im not cheaping out on fuel delivery
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    If I hadn't already bought injectors, I might. But seeing how they're already here, I'm going to run them until I see IPWs maxing out.
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    if thats the case i say screw it buy a used one and go to town, you have rockers right?
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    I will have 1.9s. Gotta get the dough to pick them up from ZZP and send in the spares I have for cores. Gonna keep the stockers in my car now for when I decide to get a cam.

    But... I'm about to have some porting done first. All in good time, friend.
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    yes. get them cleaned. especially if you are going to take your time getting an IC.
    did it on my F350 and it made a world of difference. and I thought I was keeping my fuel system clean with the additives.
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    Of course, this promotes their services, but most of the companies that specialize in injector cleaning claim injector cleaner additives don't really do much. Take it with a grain of salt, though.
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    i dont think id go with the cam, i see a lot of horror stories with the timing chains. rockers will help the car breathe a lot better. im actually on the fence about headers
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    I am at 98% duty cycle, but I'm running pig rich up top
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