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  1. #1 Correct my future setup. 
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    Well, as I've been looking more and more into modding my car, I've been wanting to do more than what I first intended to.

    Mods now:
    SLP catback exhaust
    Open cone intake
    Autolite 104s
    Autolite Professional Wires

    Mods I plan on doing:
    Aeroforce gauge
    180 tstat
    Headers
    Hi flow cat
    Cam
    Stage 2 intercooler
    42.5 injectors
    Drop to x pulley
    Some sort of tune

    Within the next few weeks, I'll have the steps to safely mod a 3800 vehicle done and over with. So that's out of the way. Is running all of these mods together even possible? Would I need to run a certain type of gas? What extras would I need to buy with the stuff I plan on buying in the future to make sure nothing is in harms way?

    I'm just looking to do everything right. Any help given is appreciated. I'll also accept constructive criticism, just try not to rip on me too hard!
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    Yes.

    91+ as per usual.

    Might benefit from a tune. If you have to choose between canned tunes, your stock PCM might be better.

    Just so you know, you just typed out three grand in engine mods.

    Which will let you make more than enough power to start breaking hard parts in your trans if you ever decide to hook.

    You also didn't specify a camshaft. That in itself can be a can of worms.
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    whenever your modded its always good to run 93 oct, i ran 93 when i was stock its only a few cents more and its better so why not get it

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt5112 View Post
    Yes.

    91+ as per usual.

    Might benefit from a tune. If you have to choose between canned tunes, your stock PCM might be better.

    Just so you know, you just typed out three grand in engine mods.

    Which will let you make more than enough power to start breaking hard parts in your trans if you ever decide to hook.

    You also didn't specify a camshaft. That in itself can be a can of worms.
    I knew it would cost quite a bit, and I'm fine with that. Quick question, though. Would getting rid of my wish for a cam and getting 1.9 rockers be possible with all of the other mods combined?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gtpeddie View Post
    whenever your modded its always good to run 93 oct, i ran 93 when i was stock its only a few cents more and its better so why not get it
    Because thats what you're supposed to run when you're stock too.
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    Screw rockers and stick with cam idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Btownmills View Post
    I knew it would cost quite a bit, and I'm fine with that. Quick question, though. Would getting rid of my wish for a cam and getting 1.9 rockers be possible with all of the other mods combined?
    Yes.

    With traction you'd see high 12's.

    With E85 you could take that further.

    Or you could cam and run even faster times.

    Either way, plan on a pricey transmission.

    Rockers typically result in buyers remorse, sometimes as immediately as your first WOT run.

    You can literally do whatever you want.

    What cam and rockers? Sure, just modify the heads for it.

    Want heads and rockers? Sure.

    Blower and turbo? Sure.

    No one and nothing is going to stop you but your wallet/wife.
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    boost should always equal premium fuel...if you dont know that then hand your keys to someone that does
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    i have a S2IC and almost have everything for my build im trying to get as much power as i can on my engine with out having to buy a built trans, or blow my stock one up quickly.

    you need a budget and depending on what your budget you may want to do the same. thats were you may want to consider how far you go with mods

    always remember too, once you do all these mods 42.5# injectors, cam, pulley drop, most likely egr delete if your doing an IC set up your going to need a tune before you can drive it so you would want to look into a wideband and an aeroforce to scan your car

    when modding you want to have a budget and plan set just to know what your getting into

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    Add to the list something to scan w/ aka aeroforce scan gauge and get a good tune.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matt5112 View Post
    Yes.

    With traction you'd see high 12's.

    With E85 you could take that further.

    Or you could cam and run even faster times.

    Either way, plan on a pricey transmission.

    Rockers typically result in buyers remorse, sometimes as immediately as your first WOT run.

    You can literally do whatever you want.

    What cam and rockers? Sure, just modify the heads for it.

    Want heads and rockers? Sure.

    Blower and turbo? Sure.

    No one and nothing is going to stop you but your wallet/wife.
    Would I definitely need to replace my heads if I went with the rocker setup? Why do people remorse? I was thinking 1.9 modded rockers or maybe an XP Cam. I just don't know exactly what else would need to be upgraded to be able to handle that. What's the most I could get away with without upgrading my transmission?
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    Quote Originally Posted by REDCOMPG View Post
    Add to the list something to scan w/ aka aeroforce scan gauge and get a good tune.
    I was planning on getting an aeroforce gauge too. I'm not exactly sure what kind of tune/where to get it done though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Btownmills View Post
    What's the most I could get away with without upgrading my transmission?
    Not much.

    Sloppy build quality from factory and parts designed for 200 WHP (ie stock) means anything past headers and a pulley makes the trans a liability.
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    well...you don't really ever know..my buddies bonneville has to be pushing over 300 wheel easy and he's on a stock tranny with 126k on it. just depends how you drive it. he doesn't launch it alot, mainly hits it after a roll
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    and if you go IC you have to get a 99+ coolant/alt bracket and alternator so the lines can be ran

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    Quote Originally Posted by gtpeddie View Post
    and if you go IC you have to get a 99+ coolant/alt bracket and alternator so the lines can be ran
    I'm determined to find a way around this.
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    :: Overkill Motorsports :: for a mail order tune but you would better to get a dyno tune if there's anyone or any shops in your area that know their stuff or you could order a tune from any of the vendors but most of us prefer overkill.
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    I would suggest the stock PCM before that.

    A dyno tune wouldn't be bad if they understood how a 3800 PCM operates differently from an LS1 PCM.
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    Don't do the rockers. I have HUGE buyer's remorse!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rynoman03 View Post
    Don't do the rockers. I have HUGE buyer's remorse!
    What dont you like about the rockers?
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