S&S Headers- What ya'll got!?

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Originally Posted by TDCRacing

Ok I see. I have seen donut gaskets also, believe they were for tog's. So is that something that can be used on all ball and joint style connections or is it something just for the togs?

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I was assuming the S&S flange was the same as the TOGs, sorry, like I said I havent seen them first hand.

SLP's use donut gaskets, I'm not sure about TOG's. But Pacesetters use a joint flange that may take a little RTV to seal, but I've never had a problem with that part though.

SLPs are a slip joint with band clamps. There isn't a single gasket on them.

You're right, I had it backwards. Looking at them now I got it straight.

well im about 90 bucks short lol. Gunna see what i can do in a little while.

If your moderately supercharged, you may want to stick with the pacesetters and correct the leaks instead of going with headers that have 1 5/8" primaries and the S n S headers supposedly have a 2.5" collecter thus more restrictive for your setup.

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Originally Posted by FoSHO99

If your moderately supercharged, you may want to stick with the pacesetters and correct the leaks instead of going with headers that have 1 5/8" primaries and the S n S headers supposedly have a 2.5" collecter thus more restrictive for your setup.

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Well the mods are in my sig. Says on the link that ron vaugel went 11.19 with these headers on his car. So it doesent seem to be to restrictive for my goals.

what do ya think?

A good point was brought up, you'll be fixing a leak but adding a restriction. Save teh money and buy a Gen V.

FS: GenV - 3800Pro.com Forum

wow....ummmm....how is that going to fix my exhaust problem??



It was stated that Ron ran 11.19 with these wrapped headers on his car. So do you really think it would be hurting me any for a mid to high 12's combo?

Not really no.

You've gotta be over 325WHP right now anyway, and I just saw you already have a p/p blower so forget a gen v, not worth it in your case.

I would fix the leak before I bought new personally. I'm sure you could sell them and get a few bucks right?

The only other problem I have heard with S&S's is that they made of a mild steel construction. Not quite as beefy as some of the other companies' headers. And wrapping them is not the best idea. You are best to go with the Ceramic Coating to prevent rusting. And wrapping them will cause just that, rust.

I myself have the "baby" TOGs. They are only 1.5" primary tubes and it has the 3" Collector. They are a bit of a pita to install. Just ask Reptile ;)

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Originally Posted by VinnieGTP

Not really no.

You've gotta be over 325WHP right now anyway, and I just saw you already have a p/p blower so forget a gen v, not worth it in your case.

I would fix the leak before I bought new personally. I'm sure you could sell them and get a few bucks right?

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Yeah there already sold actually. Now let me ask you guys this. If i went with the togs with the 1 5/8's primarys and the 3 inch collector do you think that would be enough to support me current combo comfortably?



I don't want to do this more than once. But that has already happend. So bottom line is that this WILL BE THE LAST TIME. So im going to be absoultly sure that the best decision is made.


That being said im going to be going with the togs.

Good decision? I mean everybody is right and after actually looking at a tap measure and visually seeing how big 2 1/2 inches is (collector size for the s&s) It scared me off. Exhaust is an important part of your combo. And I sure dont want to be adding any tenths onto my 1/4 mile time if i dont have to be.


Good decision?

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Originally Posted by GeddyLee

The only other problem I have heard with S&S's is that they made of a mild steel construction. Not quite as beefy as some of the other companies' headers. And wrapping them is not the best idea. You are best to go with the Ceramic Coating to prevent rusting. And wrapping them will cause just that, rust.

I myself have the "baby" TOGs. They are only 1.5" primary tubes and it has the 3" Collector. They are a bit of a pita to install. Just ask Reptile ;)

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Inmo the pacesetters were also a pita to install. At least the crossover was anyway. What was so hard? And did you have any leaks after installing the togs? At all?

Well, my TOGs are probably going to be for sale soon, I have already welded the bolts in the rear crossover and downpipe so it's a 1 person install. Plus I have a Random tech DP that will be coming with them when they go.

Probably asking in the $400 range since the headers have mild sirface rust from not being coated. Nothing major at all, just there so they don't look as pretty :(

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Originally Posted by VinnieGTP

Well, my TOGs are probably going to be for sale soon, I have already welded the bolts in the rear crossover and downpipe so it's a 1 person install. Plus I have a Random tech DP that will be coming with them when they go.

Probably asking in the $400 range since the headers have mild sirface rust from not being coated. Nothing major at all, just there so they don't look as pretty :(

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Why are you selling them? I thought all togs come coated? ?If you could post some pics i may be intrested. Thanks

I'm going to be pushing the 450-500WHP threshold soon and need the TOG Xtremes, because they have 1 3/4" primaries :)

where do you even buy tog extreams from??

Have to find a used set or catch 3800 Performance - high performance aftermarket car parts for your Grand Prix, Monte Carlo, Impala, Regal, Bonneville, and V6 F-body!! when they have them new.