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12-11-2011
Anybody have any experience with these? Theyre $99, so I'm kinda guessing they aren't top notch. Also, i know you dont get gains from mufflers, but would getting the stock mufflers sound better than say..flowmasters? I dont know how to get the best sound.
12-11-2011
Summit racing has $99 headers? wha?
12-11-2011
They aren't for shortblocks, those are longblock headers, no downpipe.
Get speeddaddys off ebay. under $200 shipped.
Headers, Glasspack where the Resonator is, and stock mufflers sounds best.
Originally Posted by W-Body Store
12-11-2011
Why do you keep posting about long blocks and short blocks? That has nothing to do with what he is talking about.
12-11-2011
Whatever you say... I guess if you get longtubes and they don't fit, you can't say I didn't tell you so.
I read wrong anyway, those are truck headers "Headers, Full-Length, Steel, Painted, Chevy, GMC, SUV, Pickup, Small Block, Pair" Summit Racing SUM-G9006 - Summit Racing® Headers - Overview - SummitRacing.com
That came up when I searched for 00 GP headers.
Originally Posted by W-Body Store
12-11-2011
FBODY headers?
12-11-2011
The only headers summit sells for Grand Prixs are SLP and Pacesetters, cheapest being $369.
GRAND PRIX - PONTIAC - 2000 - Headers - SummitRacing.com
Originally Posted by W-Body Store
12-11-2011
Do you know what a long block and a short block is? I'm not trying to make you look foolish...honestly.
12-11-2011
Alright never mind about the headers. So you guys say stock mufflers and cherry bomb or glasspack? I'm not trying to sound stock, i'm trying to sound like kinda louder/deep tone
12-11-2011
brian, he is right.
long block and short block refer to the motor.....not the headers...
12-11-2011
3.8's sound like poop. stock mufflers, headers, and glasspack or 2. let your blower be the cool sounding part
12-11-2011
Keep it quite no loud 3800 sounds good. If anything borla is the most tolerable.
12-11-2011
So what you're saying is GP headers will fit a firebird? Didn't think so...
Whats the difference? Long block exhaust ports are further apart.
Am I wrong?
Originally Posted by W-Body Store
12-11-2011
Long block and short block as nothing to do with the way an engine sits in an engine bay. Please see below.
***Edit: Below was taken from a 10 second Google search***
Long Block Engines
If an engine was pulled directly out of a car with all the attachments, including wiring, it would be referred to as a long block. If purchasing a long block, it will be substantially more expensive than a short block.
Short Block Engine
A short block engine is also referred to as the engine core. This sub-assembly includes the cylinder block, pulley hub, front cover and engine plates. Essentially it is a stripped engine, typically what a mechanic would service when performing an overhaul.
Last edited by Dallasneon; 12-11-2011 at 10:08 PM.
12-11-2011
Yes, you're wrong.
Long block = entire engine from rotating assembly to heads
Short block = block and rotating assembly, no heads
12-11-2011
I never said they would fit.
Short block = bare block with crank and pistons installed.
Long block = block with crank and pistons and heads installed.
12-11-2011
^that..so yes, you were wrong
12-11-2011
You beat me to it!
12-11-2011
Fair enough, you made your point, I will from now on refer to what I meant as longitudal RWD 3800s if that's politically correct enough for you.
Originally Posted by W-Body Store
12-11-2011
Its not that its politically correct, its the misinformation that is being spread that bothers me. I got no beef with you.
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