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07-01-2010
Hey guys Im new here but i have 99 GTP with FWI. I was looking around for headers and just curious if some of these cheap ebay headers are good compared to the ZZP? If anyone knows. I plan on doing a lot of modding right now and ZZP is out of my price range cause of other mods I wish to do immediatly. Any input or advice. Thanks in advance
07-01-2010
ZZP headers are way overpriced considering SSAC is a reputable set of headers that will show up at your door for $350. the speed daddy headers you find on ebay are the same thing as SSAC, but $220 to your door.
you make up your mind if you feel like wasting money..
07-01-2010
Exactly what i needed to know! Thanks
07-09-2010
Why is everyone always saying $220 shipped, I got mine last month and only paid $205 shipped,,, They are currently $170 on ebay.. great headers..
07-09-2010
get ready to weld them though... you get what you pay for IMO. I paid more in fabricating and welding than I did for my pacesetters.
07-09-2010
SSAC's seal without welding apparently.
It only seems that pacecrappers need welding....
07-10-2010
Yeah, no welding was required at all,, I did however weld them, cause my buddy had a welder and it was fun..Originally Posted by Lawngoose
07-25-2010
Do the speed daddys have a 3" exit? I read that a 2.5" would be better for a N/A GP?
07-25-2010
headers on a N/A are pretty much pointless... but yes they have a 3in exit... which wont really matter if its 2.5 or 3 in.... where ur gonna lose at is the primaries.. all ur low end torque will go bye bye.
Originally Posted by SuperSport
07-25-2010
headers on a N/A make the car pull evenly at all speeds... its actually a good thing for the car.
Makes it more balanced.
For 220 its worth it.
07-25-2010
Meh...balanced. I'll do PLOG/3" DP all day long on a N/A car just to keep the low-end.
08-01-2010
so are the reviews on zzp.com full of crap? like this one
"These headers are truly amazing. Last fall my car was wideband tuned with a gen v, xp cam, and tog headers, and all the supporting mods. We reached 18* of timing advance at WOT with a 2.7" pulley, hitting a max of 13psi. Over the winter I installed the ZZP headers and in the spring I noticed my boost had dropped to 11.5psi with the 2.7 pulley. I threw a 2.55" pulley on and to my surprise I couldn't see any consistent knock anywhere. So the ZZP headers let me drop from a 2.7" pulley to a 2.55" with 0 knock and thats comparing them to TOGS. Currently the car is running around the 14psi range depending on weather."
08-01-2010
LOL 2.55 on a Gen V???
08-01-2010
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YouTube - Belt slip in action - 2.6" pulley
Mod list: Ontario Quebec Club Grand Prix • View topic - FS: 2003 Regal - 350+ whp... - $8500 obo...
2003 Buick Regal LS ($6000 two years ago)
Converted to supercharged (relocate MAP sensor, add wiring for BBV, tune), still LS tranny w/ 3.05 gearing (hours and hours of labour!)
L36 block (full rebuild - ~$800 for shortblock)
Cometic 4-layer headgaskets (.052") - brings compression up slightly, maybe 9.6:1 or so ($180)
Ported heads, stock valves (gasket matched and smoothed basically) ($0, just labour)
Overkill BBC cam (218/234, 117 lsa, .528/.507 lift) (~$600 installed, still was a deal)
Fullsize intercooler with reservior (~$800+), Ford lightning IC pump($125), aluminum rad($80), fan on rad ($60)
Ported Gen3 M90 with Northstar TB ($300), cruise still installed/working
2.6" MPS ($100) pulley installed, zero knock with 94 octane, ~14 psi (needs new belt to cure slipping, doing that soon)
Overkill Gen2 FWI ($100)
Pacesetter headers ($350), flange for 3" cutout on DP ($100), manual bolt-on cutout (could install electric, had one previously)
Full 3" exhaust ($500), shimmy 3" in/out muffler ($150), no resonator, NO drone!
Can include an un-installed trans cooler
People do run stupidly small pulleys. But that cam is not meant for an M90.
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