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  1. #1 Which would make more power in the long run? 
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    OK so, I know I wanna do a top swap for sure, BUT I got to thinking... If I did a top swap, with a good tune, and MAYBE a little smaller of a pulley (id be afraid I'd blow it up) and of course headers, blah blah (pretty much everything you'd need to run a 3.4 pully on an L67 ) would it be about even with an L67 (with all the mods to run properly) on a 3.4 pulley? I know about the whole higher compression on a N/A block being factored in...
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    Mod-for-mod, a top-swapped car should be faster compared to an L67 car due to the higher compression. I'm not sure if you could safely run a 3.4 on a top-swapped motor without either some big rockers or a decent cam, though. I'm running 3.4 with an XP cam on my 9.5:1 block and probably wouldn't want to go much smaller.
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    Yeah that's what I mean, I'd be to afraid of blowing it up with to small of a pulley, thats why I might consider just a whole L67 swap, just to be a little on the safe side.
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    OR, do a cam while you're in there.

    OR, go for a 3.5-3.6" pulley.

    But i vote my first suggestion there.
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    I wanna do a cam, but I want something more DD- friendly.
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    cam IS DD friendly.

    All in the tune.

    3.29's aren't though, but you already have those.

    Putting a blower on isn't, since it causes parasitic loss.

    Should have went turbo?
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    ehhhhh I can't drop that much money on a turbo. And finding someone to tune around here is like looking for a needle in a hay field. I was going to purposely blow my engine up, so I'd have a good excuse to get a doner L67. I could always just buy an L67 and build it up nicely and drop it in once I'm done with it.....
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    Or do an L36 build the exact same way....
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    The point of the top swap is your making more power out of boost...with the higher compression you don't need as much boost to make as much power. With a 3.4"/header setup on a L67 you'll make about as much power if not a little less than a top swapped car with some flow mods. So...IMO...cam it while its out. Even a little VS will be good because it is small enough to use the stock valve springs/retainers...that way with headers and a good tune you should be able to run a 3.4"/3.5" with no issues...and if your worried...get meth...and throw the 3.4" on there and play with the timing and see what you get.
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    just top swap it and run the stock pulley. youll notice a giant gain from where you are now and youll enjoy it at least for a little while. after a bit you can shoot for the '3.4 setup' which would probably be a 3.6 ish pulley for you, but honestly even running the 3.4 wouldnt be that hard. all it takes is a few flow mods and a good tune.
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    you guys are my hero's haha. Well, I guess top swap it is, I will more then likely run a stock pulley for a while, espically until I can find a good tuning place. I'm gonna start collecting parts next month, so I'm hoping to have it all done, late may early june-ish
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    take lots of pictures haha
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    trust me, I will. And to Nick, Bio, and Matt, prepare your selves for a lot of PM's after I get done for ?'s about tuning and what-not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio248 View Post
    great. i love questions.
    haha thats not sarcastic at all.....
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    so long as they arent stupid questions then i dont care. like if you dont research at all and ask me what pulley you can run or what parts you need for the top swap. my blood pressure goes up.
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    I hate stupid questions, but stupid is relative... so its not always fair.
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    Top swap it and cam it
    cams are dd friendly just dont go to wild

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    Quote Originally Posted by TorqueAutoMotiv View Post
    Top swap it and cam it
    cams are dd friendly just dont go to wild
    cams . . . so hard to install . . . deturing . . . don't have the spirit
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    Like the VS I mentioned...granted...I DD'd an XP and it was fine as long as you started it in the cold and let it warm up.
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