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02-16-2010
I am about to purchase a 98 GTP 2dr and it oil leaking from the valve covers. I seen this recall information on here and called the dealer today and they said there was no such recall ever put on these cars???? Why would it be ALL over the internet if it never was. Suggestions??
02-17-2010
Its a legit recall. That dealership doesn't know what they are talking about.
02-17-2010
I just bought my 2000 GTP the dealer had done the recall over a year ago for the previous owner - it was leaking again. They only do the front anyway, that's the easy one, I'm sure the back is leaking too. What ever you do get it fixed right away. I was at the junkyard the other day and out of 7 GP's four of them had melted clumps for engines!!
02-17-2010
^Agreed. Do it yourself or have it done. It's not that hard. Replace both, mine were both leaking, even after the dealer did mine on the recall. I believe it is the seals around the perimeter where the bolts go in to be the problem area the "gaskets" are really more of an O-ring seal. I am now leak free! Go Felpro.
02-17-2010
^^agreed change them gaskets asap, make sure fuel injector o'rings arent seeping either if they are replace them too
02-17-2010
that dealer is BS'ing you, i just went and made an appointment yesterday to get it changed on Wednesday. just go to another dealer
Last edited by heavyRfoot; 02-17-2010 at 02:02 PM. Reason: spelling is hard
02-18-2010
Find a different dealer.Originally Posted by blktalon456
02-18-2010
Are you kidding me? I did the damn things for nothing???
Had I known there was a recall I sure as hell would have had the dealer do it. That pisses me off.
I used to like this car but I'm really hating it now.
02-18-2010
First of all, the vast majority of the recalled cars only get a little clip or something to move the spark plug wires which is a job that takes under 5 minutes. Some are included to get the whole gasket, though - front only.Are you kidding me? I did the damn things for nothing???
Had I known there was a recall I sure as hell would have had the dealer do it. That pisses me off.
I used to like this car but I'm really hating it now.
Second, are you saying you're hating your car because you didn't know this was a recall campaign?
02-18-2010
the cars that have just the spark plug wire clip relocation is on the n/a 3.8, the supercharged replaces the front valve cover gasket
02-19-2010
Sorry haven't replied yet been busy working on other things with the car. I found the actual recall information and I'm gonna take it to the pontiac dealer tomorrow. With hard evidence you think they could still deny it? How hard is it to actually do it yourself? Thanks for the help guys
02-19-2010
That's just the straw that broke my back. Actually hating it because every gasket in it has went bad. I hate to crawl under the thing. The entire bottom is a mess. It's just poor engineering. Then GM wonders why nobody was buying their cars.
I also have a toyota 4runner about the same age and mileage. There is not one drop of oil under that thing. You could eat off the oil pan.
02-19-2010
Hmm.. Funny since my front valve cover is leaking oil too... Do I just call a dealer and tell them that there is a recall on my car, when can I bring it in? Or something else?
02-19-2010
Good news peeps!!! I called another dealer today explained to the service tech what was going on and he immediately said let me call you back in ten minutes. He called back and said I got you scheduled for this monday at 9 am. Not all dealers are crap.
02-19-2010
yea had the same prob with my local dealer. I told them that Pontiac says to replace the valve cover gasket and they told me that they just had to put spark plug retainers on there..... im screwed bc theres not another dealership for another 50 miles
02-20-2010
Try doing what I done and print out the actual recall and take it too them. Hard evidence doesn't lie and see what they say then. Here is a link to the info. I hope this helps you guys. It was provided to me through my insurance company. How about that
https://onlineservice1.progressive.c...5&CPN=LTQ016BD
02-20-2010
That link didn't work for me but I found it here: Office of Defects Investigation (ODI) Server Error
02-20-2010
They're not wrong, yours isnt Supercharged.yea had the same prob with my local dealer. I told them that Pontiac says to replace the valve cover gasket and they told me that they just had to put spark plug retainers on there..... im screwed bc theres not another dealership for another 50 miles
GT's get the retainer clip
GTP's get a new front valve cover gasket.
If yours is a GTP then yes, print out the recall and take it there.
02-21-2010
Here it is just copy and paste into a word document and take it with you.
Recall Number: 08V118000Dates Manufactured: APR 1999 to JUN 2000Number of Vehicles Affected: 207542Date Owners Notified On: APR 2008GM IS RECALLING 207,542 MY 1997-2003 BUICK REGAL AND PONTIAC GRAND PRIX VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH A 3.8L SUPERCHARGED V-6 ENGINE. THESE VEHICLES HAVE HIGHER FRONT ROCKER COVER GASKET TEMPERATURES, CREATING THE POTENTIAL FOR EARLIER DEGRADATION OF THE FRONT ROCKER COVER GASKET AND EVENTUAL OIL SEEPAGE. Consequence of Defect:
CERTAIN UNDERHOOD FIRES MAY BE CAUSED BY DROPS OF ENGINE OIL, FROM SEEPAGE OR SPILLAGE, BEING DEPOSITED ON THE EXHAUST MANIFOLD THROUGH HARD BRAKING. IF THE MANIFOLD IS HOT ENOUGH AND THE OIL RUNS BELOW THE HEAT SHIELD, IT MAY IGNITE INTO A SMALL FLAME AND, IN SOME INSTANCES, THE FIRE MAY SPREAD TO THE PLASTIC SPARK PLUG WIRE CHANNEL AND BEYOND.Corrective Action:
DEALERS WILL INSTALL A NEW FRONT (LEFT) ROCKER COVER GASKET WITH AN IMPROVED DESIGN FROM THE ORIGINAL GASKET AND REPLACE THE SPARK PLUG WIRE CHANNEL WITH NEW RETAINERS. DUE TO PARTS AVAILABILITY, OWNER NOTIFICATION LETTERS WILL BE MAILED IN TWO PHASES. THE CUSTOMER LETTERS FOR THE 1997-2000 MODEL YEAR VEHICLES WILL BE MAILED ON APRIL 28, 2008. GM WILL ADVISE AS TO WHEN THE OWNER LETTERS FOR THE 2001-2003 MODEL YEAR VEHICLES WILL BE MAILED. UNTIL SUFFICIENT PARTS BECOME AVAILABLE, GM STRONGLY RECOMMENDS THAT OWNERS OBSERVE THE FOLLOWING IMPORTANT PRECAUTIONS (1) THEY STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT OWNERS DO NOT PARK THEIR VEHICLE IN A GARAGE, CAR PORT, OR OTHER STRUCTURE; (2) IF OWNERS NOTICE A BURNING ODOR, THEY SHOULD HAVE THEIR DEALER INSPECT THE VEHICLE. THE DEALER WILL INSPECT THE VEHICLE WITHOUT CHARGE; (3) USE PREMIUM FUEL (91 OCTANE OR HIGHER) IN THE VEHICLE AS RECOMMENDED IN THE VEHICLE'S OWNER MANUAL. OWNERS MAY CONTACT BUICK AT 1-866-608-8080 OR PONTIAC AT 1-800-620-7668, OR THROUGH THEIR WEBSITE AT HTTP://WWW.GMOWNERCENTER.COM .
02-21-2010
This is the one for the GT/SE version
Recall Number: 09V116000Dates Manufactured: JAN 0001 to JAN 0001Number of Vehicles Affected: 1497516Date Owners Notified On: APR 2009GENERAL MOTORS IS RECALLING 1,497,516 MY 1997-2003 BUICK REGAL, MY 1998-2003 CHEVROLET LUMINA, MONTE CARLO AND IMPALA, MY 1998-1999 OLDSMOBILE INTRIGUE, MY 1997-2003 PONTIAC GRAND PRIX VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH A 3.8L V6 NATURALLY ASPIRATED ENGINE. SOME OF THESE VEHICLES HAVE A CONDITION IN WHICH DROPS OF ENGINE OIL MAY BE DEPOSITED ON THE EXHAUST MANIFOLD THROUGH HARD BRAKING. Consequence of Defect:
IF THE MANIFOLD IS HOT ENOUGH AND THE OIL RUNS BELOW THE HEAT SHIELD, IT MAY IGNITE INTO A SMALL FLAME AND MAY SPREAD TO THE PLASTIC SPARK PLUG WIRE CHANNEL AND BEYOND INCREASING THE RISK OF AN ENGINE COMPARTMENT FIRE.Corrective Action:
DEALERS WILL REMOVE THE SPARK PLUG WIRE RETENTION CHANNEL AT THE FRONT OF ENGINE AND INSTALL TWO NEW SPARK PLUG WIRE RETAINERS FREE OF CHARGE. THE RECALL IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN DURING MAY 2009. OWNERS MAY CONTACT CHEVROLET AT 1-800-630-2438, OLDSMOBILE AT 1-800-630-6537, AND PONTIAC AT 1-800-620-7668 OR HTTP://WWW.PONTIAC.COM OR HTTP:GM Owners Center - GM.
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