:th_scratchhead: What do you mean bin file?! When you hook the scanner in and then hook to your PC you have to pick what kind of car..and in EFI live world that is consider a "bin file" or picking your ECU. HPtuner and EFI live is WAY different software. I mean it seems to me your trying to prove me wrong..I wouldn't post something if it didn't happen. I have no need to. The only reason I have a EFI Live tuner is because that is what we use on the camaro. I am sorry if the tuning gurus you know don't know that EFI Live can flip ANY gauges! I made the camaro read backwards. Im not a guru in tuning nor am I a guru in cars. When I get my laptop back I will be more then happy to send you screen shots of everything. Right now have bigger problems to worry about other then arguing with you about a gas hand.