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    i have 2 setups in mind.....

    NIC*GEN V*E85

    FSIC*1.95 RR*93 OCT

    what would you go with?

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    why not like XP, Gen V?

    or Full Size IC, Gen V?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bbptech View Post
    why not like XP, Gen V?

    or Full Size IC, Gen V?
    because if i dont plan on intercooling the NIC cam makes a more power and allows small pulleys....

    if i go intercooled id prob go rockered with a ported gen3 and FSIC
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    those are completely different setups. like....WAY different. you cannot compare them in any fashion.
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    research honestly...I don't think you understand what you've got going on there.
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    Buy a tuner first and learn how to use it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluegtp91 View Post
    research honestly...I don't think you understand what you've got going on there.
    i thought the NIC cam was meant for those who dont wanna go intercooled?

    so i was saying shoudl i go big cam with a better blower or gen 3 rocker'd and IC'd? what am i missing>?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoostJunki3 View Post
    i thought the NIC cam was meant for those who dont wanna go intercooled?

    so i was saying shoudl i go big cam with a better blower or gen 3 rocker'd and IC'd? what am i missing>?
    you dont realize those setups are vastly different in how they will perform and how they will run. a NIC setup will NOT be good as a daily driver and unless you know how to tune and have a wideband then youre going to be ****ed. cam or not, an intercooler is a good idea. the only reason a NIC can run such small pullies without an intercooler is because of the stupid amount of overlap that it has. you HAVE TO run small pullies in order to keep boost levels up. its not necessarily a good choice for a cam in any situation.

    therefore we are back at this situation: do you want to run a cam or not? how fast do you REALLY want to go?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio248 View Post
    you dont realize those setups are vastly different in how they will perform and how they will run. a NIC setup will NOT be good as a daily driver and unless you know how to tune and have a wideband then youre going to be ****ed. cam or not, an intercooler is a good idea. the only reason a NIC can run such small pullies without an intercooler is because of the stupid amount of overlap that it has. you HAVE TO run small pullies in order to keep boost levels up. its not necessarily a good choice for a cam in any situation.

    therefore we are back at this situation: do you want to run a cam or not? how fast do you REALLY want to go?
    ok thanks for clearing that up for me....considering that this is a DD car that i want to be a 12 sec DD then i will just go rocker'd and IC'd....the more i think about it thats prob the best setup for me...thanks bio

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    12 flat or 12.99?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liquifire View Post
    12 flat or 12.99?
    id like to see mid 12 on slicks....i figure if vogel is shooting into the 11's on that setup its possible

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    what intercooler you goin with?
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    vogel had a stupid amount of custom parts and weight reduction. you have to take what he did with a grain of salt. he only ran 12.11.
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    Quote Originally Posted by minichopper6hp View Post
    what intercooler you goin with?
    its in my sig unless your new core is super successful...

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    Do what you want. I was just asking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by minichopper6hp View Post
    Do what you want. I was just asking.
    ok mr grouchy

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    Well i will be running one here real soon just have to finish it up. I think its gonna be just fine. You can go with what you want, you know the pricing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by minichopper6hp View Post
    Well i will be running one here real soon just have to finish it up. I think its gonna be just fine. You can go with what you want, you know the pricing.
    And for those that don't?

    In other words, do you have a website?
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    Logan. Put it on your car and make it work. Enough with the selling it and "seeing" if it works or not.

    As for the OP.

    Just get a S1X or XP and a S2IC from ZZP along with #42.5's and get it tuned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluegtp91 View Post
    Logan. Put it on your car and make it work. Enough with the selling it and "seeing" if it works or not.

    As for the OP.

    Just get a S1X or XP and a S2IC from ZZP along with #42.5's and get it tuned.
    i agree in alot of ways with this whole statement.
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