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    ok guys so i have been having a misfire issue at wot...cylinders 3,4,5,6 are misfiring multiple times when i floor it....now i have a intermittent misfire while idling....thought it was ignition related but everything seems alright so i also noticed while accelerating slowly i bog and nose dive like the car is gonna die, almost like im getting no fuel....maybe a clogged fuel filter or injectors hopefully its the cheap filter....ill prob replace the plugs wires and coils while im at it also...could a fuel issue cause what im describing?
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    yes check for clogged or inoperable injector
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    If it isn't fuel related I'd be willing to bet your ICM might be taking a crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluegtp91 View Post
    If it isn't fuel related I'd be willing to bet your ICM might be taking a crap.
    thats my next guess also because i highly doubt all 3 coils would go simultaniously...and for 4 wires to be bad would be weird also...how much is an ICM?

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    the ICM is different from the coils...if it takes a crap it'll make perfectly good coils seem like dog sh!t...shouldn't be more than like 10 or 20 bucks from Morad.
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    ok yeah the fuel filter didn't fix it....im gonna get a new icm first along with new wires & plugs hopefully that cures my cars cold

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    Please just get some AL104's again and gap them all to exactly .05
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    I didn't even see that...over gapping can cause crazy misfires...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoSHO99 View Post
    Please just get some AL104's again and gap them all to exactly .05
    did you mean .50?

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    he must of. i got my 104s gapped at .55 and never had a prob.
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    Plus if plug gap was causing my misfires wouldn't I have noticed right away after chAnging my plugs

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    Plug gap wouldn't cause intermittent probs I wouldn't think either

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    i beginning to lean toward tranny issues....it almost feels like a shift when it bogs...weird....like it bangs as if it shifted but it studders instead....or it could be all 6 cylinders not firing.

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    UPDATE!!!

    ok guys....i have noticed a couple things tonight while scanning....

    when i get this bog/bump/bang effect my knock shoots up above 2.0 quick and then will disapate when i let off...and when this bang bog happens i do not show up with any misfires....the bump and misfires are seperate it seems....now where do i start! AHH FML

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    any body?

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    plugs should be gapped at .055" .5" is half an inch. Not sure on your problem tho.
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    Pull out plugs 3,4,5, and 6, and check the gap on all of them. I had a problem years ago where I replaced my plugs and accidentally over-gapped the plug for #4. Everything was fine for the first few days after that, then it just 'randomly' started acting up. I had the plug at .065" instead of .055". $h!t happens...
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    For the last time, you are running a 3.4 setup which one of the supporting mods is a colder plug. Make sure to get AL104's, gap them PROPERLY at .05-.055 and then try again. When you go from 7psi to 12psi in boost, a colder plug is needed, you are running stock heat range plugs. If it just gets a little better but still misfires, drop down to a .045 gap and try again.
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    no one can help you if you are unwilling to try some of these things...it is free to inspect and check things and what $2 per plug for new ones...
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    putting in 104's tomm at .45 or .50 havent decided...and the locking up feelin i was getting was from not doing a case learn after my tune....did a case learn and boom i only have misfires now

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