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    well my 98 gt died today.......started running hotter than normal...not overheated but around 230-240 i watched the temp gauge rise and fall. i believe my head gaskets went and took out the crank... definitely spun a rod bearing ....

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    I'd say the intake gaskets blew and sent coolant into the crankcase.

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    did the intakes about 4 months ago with the aluminum gaskets new upper intake...

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    Check the oil for coolant or metal particles. And are you sure it's a rod knock? Running at 240 won't kill a 3800.
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    240F isn't going to hurt a head gasket and definately isn't considered overheating. That really doesn't matter though...since your engine is toast either way.
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    checked the oil...full of metal.... feels gritty .

    like i said it never overheated, but the gauge was going from just under 210 where it normally showed up to the 3\4 mark which i assume is around 240-250

    the oil change was done around 600-700 miles ago
    the oil light never came on
    oil level is full

    coolant is full as well

    i just dont understand what happened..

    i was not even driving it hard running 70-75 up the freeway

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    Maybe it was just time.
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    now my quandry is do i fix it or do i sell.....and i just picked up headlights for it and i have extra interior parts

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    Around here, I can buy an S3 motor for $300.
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    hmm odd. Who knows, maybe the oil filter failed and took out the bearings. I cut open my oil filters when I change mine, there's always gritty stuff. Not metal but like carbon. If the oil pressure sensor didn't trip the light it didn't lose all pressure, assuming it didn't get stuck.
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    new oil sender.... ac delco
    the oil on the stick felt gritty and there was metal flakes in it
    oil change recently....like within the last 500 miles done by myself ac delco pf 47 filter
    thing that strikes me as odd is in 100 miles it went through 1/2 tank of gas

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    Take apart the filter man. Ac delco filters aren't known to be very good... I just cut a quarter inch from the cap with a hand saw.
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    will do

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    well...i found an engine from a 99 lesabre with 99k on it i think this will be the donor engine for my gp.....
    i know that i have to swap oil pans, pick up tubes and exhaust. but that will be the easy part.
    figuring that since i have a decent platform that is rust free and in decent shape with a new ( rebuilt ) transmission this is my best option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1998gt View Post
    new oil sender.... ac delco
    the oil on the stick felt gritty and there was metal flakes in it
    oil change recently....like within the last 500 miles done by myself ac delco pf 47 filter
    thing that strikes me as odd is in 100 miles it went through 1/2 tank of gas
    You were dumping fuel. Cylinders got fuel soaked, gas got in oil, gas spun bearings.
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    billboost...i found a series 3 engine with 14,000 miles on it for 500 dollars besides the intake this should be a plug and play correct?

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    You would swap your rear exhaust manifold, upper intake manifold/TB, PCV/Evap soleniods, the alternator and tensioner bracket, and the vacuum (very minimal) and maybe the oil filter adapter.

    The base engine is pretty much the same. FWIW you don't have to swap oil pans on a LeSloppy, same steel pan. Swap the oil filter adapter put the big bracket on for engine mount and smile.
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    more details on the 08 series 3... it came from a 08 lucerne trying to get specifics on the car it self

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    If it came out of an 08 you need to change the knock sensors. They changed them in 06 iirc.
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    thats too bad that the engine went on ya i just had mine rebuilt 6 months ago
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