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Ah done as "general principals". Interesting.
Anyway to the OP, a through flush will be needed to get as much of that sludge out as possible. You can use a flush chemical to help break up the sludge. I know prestone makes it, and some people just use tide with good results.
And yeah, check those gaskets and replace if they're plastic, but I could tell this to everyone on the site.
A thorough flush is in the plans, and may switchto the green, hhaven't decided. I will get the lim ordered and get that done too. I'm still waiting on the title from the auction house, so have time to get all the fluids changed and the lim before getting it on the road. Thanks again guys.
matt
flush it to just water before the lim job, you'll be dumping the coolant when you do the lim, then add 1 gallon of green straight antifreeze, not the 50/50 crap. when the lim job is done.
green is easy to deal with later on, dex is not always to be found so easy in a pinch, the green stuff is every where. super markets, small markets and such if stuck in a bind.
orange57--
Your number one suspect is and should be Dexcool. It gunked on me completely, twice, within a thousand miles.
I suggest sticking a garden hose in one end and opening the plug on the other, running it for an hour or two while you grab a beer, and then coming back. It must have taken me a dozen flushes to get the crud out completely.
Then switch to the conventional green, and never look back.
I wouldn't immediately suspect the LIM unless you can first and foremost rule out Dexcool, although it's a good idea to replace it eventually in either case.
Like some other guys said, you probably just need to flush out your coolant system. My 98 gtp is the exact same way. A mechanic who helps me with my car troubles told me that he and I are going to take out the radiator and flush it out along with other stuff I can't recall. Long story short, it's no biggy. It needs fixed, but it shouldn't be an immediate priority. My car's been doing it for about six months now. Still no problem. Just waiting for time to get around to it.
Well once dex cool has turned brown and is all gunked, I believe it has lost its anti rust/corrosion properties, so I'd flush it sooner than later.
I flushed a gunked system once, I did a good job with a garden hose flushing and back flushing. About a month later you could still see specks of things floating in the green coolant I switched to because pieces were breaking off of the sludge in the system. That's why I'll always add just water after the first flush, add a cooling system cleaner or tide, and drive it like that for a week to break up the gunk. Then flush again and add green.
Last edited by 02NavyBlue; 07-07-2013 at 10:32 AM.
What I noticed is Dexcool turns brownish as the pH drops. Right from the bottle it is 8.5 or so, and after time it gets more acidic as the pH drops. I've seen it as low as 6.8. After talking to some people I found that Dexcool has an organic buffering system (not organic as in green, but as in using carbon). Now organic buffering systems have a tendency to break down with 1. time and 2. heat. The perfect storm inside a car's engine. I don't know if this is right or not, but it seems to me that acidifying the coolant over time would hurt some of the components in the cooling system with the most vulnerable failing first, the plastic gaskets in the LIM. Also, not all substances experience the pH scale identically. Some substances natural pH is above 7 (this is called the pka) so a drop in pH below the pka is like getting into a progressive acid bath, the lower you go the more acidic it seems to you.
After witnessing first hand what dexcool does when air is introduced to it I will never use it again. Gunks up everything and a pain in the butt to clean up!
Dorman 47065/Napa 660-1736, they can be found in the HELP section of most parts stores. or ask for them, on the back of the package it says what year cars they are for.
they also sell new aluminum elbows now. Aluminum Coolant Elbows these are now in parts stores as well, not all of them but some carry the new metal ones. or can order them.
the how too http://www.grandprixforums.net/how-c...ows-49779.html
Thanks Scotty. Got everything ordered today from rock auto, except the elbows, they are from amazon. I plan to tackle flushing, changing gaskets and some other items in the next week or so.
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