Thread: Took my 04 to the dyno yesterday

you know this guy is smarter than 90% of the people on this forum, right?

why would you argue about his daily beater setup and his ability to make power with the 3800?

Because my neighbor's brother's cousin's cell mate put headers on his '86 IROC-Z before he got thrown in the state pen. He put like 10 cars on an 82 civic one night on main street.

Moral of the story, if you don't have headers, it's impossible to make power.

/sarcasm

aint nobody got time fo dat.

Originally Posted by 98GrandPrixIraqVet

Anyways first pull with the stock airbox:

264hp and 275ish tq

Pulled that off, and stuck a filter on the MAF for the second pull:

266hp and 278tq

It was still running pretty rich, but almost a dead even afr across the board, so I changed my base PE table from 11.1 to 11.3. And, for whatever reason, it went ran richer. Most of the pull was ~10.9afr.

259hp and I don't remember the tq.

After what the car made already are you saying your going to gain almost 90 hp with just injectors pulley and race gas?
Race gas would make less sense than other mods if you plan to keep it your daily driver..........
Might as well just use nitrous and pump gas in that case.

Race gas would be for ego stroking dyno numbers/track times only. You really think I would daily drive it while paying $8 a gallon for fuel? HAHA.

Originally Posted by 98GrandPrixIraqVet

Now your assuming I said something about as much as Bio.......
Obviously I know you dont run race gas in a daily driver guy thats why I said might as well use nitrous and pump gas........

I lost you. What does using nitrous and pump gas have to do with race gas on a few dyno pulls?

you could have gotten the same results with way less mods...and way less money...

why do you have your car setup that way?

because he don't care. i would probably lean the same direction if i had another one to modify.

Originally Posted by 99prixgt

you could have gotten the same results with way less mods...and way less money...

How do you figure?

Originally Posted by 99prixgt

why do you have your car setup that way?

Because of reliability....I have enough junk to work on as is. I don't want to have to worry about fixing some bs on my daily driver.

Why would you compare a car that is running on E85 to a car that is running 89 octane fuel?

I don't think you are understanding what actually increases torque on these motors.

Originally Posted by 98GrandPrixIraqVet

Last I checked E85 IS pump gas................

As for me not understanding what makes torque well we all know throwing in a xpz cam and leaving everything else stock besides the self ported heads doesn't increase tq very much either.........

I never said it wasn't. I was asking why you wanted to compare a car that is running E85 to one that is running 89 octane. ?

So, in your opinion, what would increase torque?

Keeping manifolds gives it the factory low-end torque curve.

Unlike headers...that sure, you might see gains from...but it's up top.

Not as useable on the street.

Magic and straight pipes apply.

I over-guessed a little bit. Not too bad of numbers from a stock pulley/injectors...with a cam/heads/DP. It'll really pick up some power up top IMO when you swap injectors...especially if you said they were running static @ 5100~.

Only thing I wouldn't do again is run a double roller...I killed the gear on mine...probably due to stupid low idle speed....but I'd just run a stock chain + some 130's and a higher idle next round.