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  1. #1 Getting horrible gas mileage 11 mpg....po420 code 
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    I have a 2001 Grand prix gt 99,000 miles. I'm going by the mpg on the dash info center. I have gotten to around 17mpg in the summer (po420 code was present then also)..but now I get around 11-12 mpg. I know its cold outside now but still.

    I'm looking to order a cat and down pipe from zzp..not sure if its 2 or 3 inch though.

    Also will be doing a tune up asap...Not sure how much that code can affect gas mileage but I have to try something.
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    P0420 = catalyst system below efficiency
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    Go with a 2" since your n/a you don't want to lose some of your low end torque.
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    I bet the highflow cat that ZZP uses will still set off the check engine light.

    P0420 on any 01+ car will affect gas mileage alot.

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    ^ Spark plug fouler trick? Or have your PCM tuned.
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    Or just a buy a quailty cat and not deal with the bull**** sounds like a way way better idea to me.

    But its just that too many people are cheap asses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fivefingerdeathpunch View Post
    Or just a buy a quailty cat and not deal with the bull**** sounds like a way way better idea to me.

    But its just that too many people are cheap asses.
    True! Then again we drive Grand Prix so its not exactly like most of us have Maserati money
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    Quote Originally Posted by REDCOMPG View Post
    ^ Spark plug fouler trick? Or have your PCM tuned.

    Yeah I was told with the zzp cat, that would most likely have to be done..
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    Only one way to find out try it without and then go from there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fivefingerdeathpunch View Post
    Or just a buy a quailty cat and not deal with the bull**** sounds like a way way better idea to me.

    But its just that too many people are cheap asses.
    I'm not totally against buying a more expensive cat, just reading around and a lot of people were going with the zzp cat, I guess for more performance reasons. Which is cool but I see that the code will probably still be present. I just need to get it taken care of, wasting gas at its price, is not cool.
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    @REDCOMPG Yeah your write I'm going to order one and see what happens.
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    Think about this if your going for a performance gain ZZP downpipe then if you wanted a quality cat that will have to be purchased and welded on. Unless you want to throw a bunch of money into it..give the fouler trick a chance em after all its a few bucks.
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    That's true the follower trick you mean simulator?
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    Also its a 2.5 downpipe.....
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    Squirrels are my engine. I need a Ford Regal
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    Unless you know you want to spend more money if that's the case ill give you my Paypal and you can send me the difference and ill put it towards hookers and blow 8)
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    Quote Originally Posted by redcompg View Post
    unless you know you want to spend more money if that's the case ill give you my paypal and you can send me the difference and ill put it towards hookers and blow 8)
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    Quote Originally Posted by REDCOMPG View Post
    Unless you know you want to spend more money if that's the case ill give you my Paypal and you can send me the difference and ill put it towards hookers and blow 8)

    Hahahaha, Ill keep you in mind.. I Just read the post in the link you provided..very clever idea..thanks a bunch.
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    No problem
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    I did the non fowler trick when I still had a high flow cat and it did the trick. Just be aware your sensor will be sad and vulnerable hanging down below the rest of the car for rocks and whatnot.
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