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    Well as I went to check the fluids to make sure they're in order, trans fluid was barely showing on the dipstick, oil was about 6 inches past the full line, and the coolant was dark brown. The overflow tank was like a brown sludge. I think previous owner saw drops of "oil" coming from the radiator and just kept adding oil.

    Leaks coolant and trans fluid from the radiator. Probably what blew the trans.

    How hard is it going to be to clear out the cooling system? And is now the time to run a seafoam treatment?
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    did you check the oil with the engine running??

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    Motor oil no. Let it sit overnight. Tranny fluid, car was warmed up, cycles through gears then let it rest in "n" and checked
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    you check the trans fluid with it in park not neutral. drive the car up to operating temp, then check the trans fluid. with it in park on a level area.
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    Sounds like you need a new radiator...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TEK310 View Post
    you check the trans fluid with it in park not neutral. drive the car up to operating temp, then check the trans fluid. with it in park on a level area.
    I'm not able to drive the car up to operating temp. I figured tranny was blown anyway, but the fluid was cherry red what little amount registered. Doesnt move forward, I could do reverse donuts however, as thats about all it will do. New radiator and used trans are on the way.

    as far as coolant, I know the Dex-cool has its issues, but should I replace all the fluid with the dex, or some other? This is what I'm currently facing in just the reservoir. Is this stuff hard to get out of the motor?
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    I just recently got through flushing the crud outta my rad... looked about like yours when I started. Everything here is done with Heater on FULL HOT

    I drained everything out I could, popping the lower rad hose.
    Removed Tstat but replace housing
    Replaced lower hose, removed upper hose.
    put garden in Rad through upper hose opening and pointed upper hose to ground.
    Started car with garden hose running on full blast.
    let run until water from upper hose is clean and clear.
    replace upper rad hose.
    reinstall OLD tstat
    Added rad flush.
    Ran car with everything capped off like normal while cracking open the bleeder valve on top of the Tstat housig to bleed air out.
    I was impatient and needed my car up and running tat evening to go to work so I only ran the car about 30 mins in my driveway with the flush in it.
    let cool a bit, pop of lower rad hose and drain. be careful! the fluid is hot!!! as me how little room there is to jerk my hand outta the hot water down there...
    replace lower hose, remove upper hose and Tstat, but reinstall tstat housing...
    Yep, again, garden hose in the upper rad hose opening on fully and start car.
    let run about 15-20 mins making sure that the water coming out of the upper rad hose is clear.
    pop off lower hose again, and reinstall upper hose.
    replace Tstat and NEW housing gasket
    fill rad with one jug of straight non diluted coolant of your choice. I used green coolant as I HATE Dex-Crap...
    top off with distilled water.
    start car and bleed/add water as needed.

    Now Im not saying that is the be all end all method, its just what I did 3 weeks ago or so. My coolant is still a nice happy bright green, I saw all sorts of solids and crap get flushed out of the system, and with the new Tstat (I used a factory 195deg one... Previous Owner had a 160 in it...) my car gets up to temp and at least to me runs better. Im sure it runs the same, but we all like to think that the things we do make our cars run better. And realistically with tat 160 Tstat in my car I doubt it was getting to the propper temp...
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    Yeah, a 160 is definitely too cold for a GP, heck, on some 97-03's the cold line is 160. at 160 the MPGs suck and the heat leaves much to be desired. AFAIK Stant does not even list a 160 for the GP, 180 and 195 only. As others have said, there are very few instances where a 180 is even necessary. And DEX is murder on our cars, GM only did that because they knew their motors were strong and they needed something to keep shop revenues up. I switched mine to Prestone Green a week after I bought it
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