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    today i bought a 99 montana 3.4 for 1300 cash title in hand,it has 201xxx miles and the previous owner was to believed to bought it new in 99 and the trans isnt slipping and it runs overall good,i did i get screwed or what and if i dont dog it out how long can it last and whats the most the gm 3.1s and 3.4s could run on original motor?
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    I couldnt tell ya if you got a good deal or not.

    Just drive it imo. Thats all you really can do.

    The motors will last if maintance is kept up.

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    got another quuestion for you whats that hose coming out of the valve cover called and what would it do if you kept driving with it ripped
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    It's part of the pcv system and helps remove gases from the crank case. Worst case: It create a bit of a vacuum leak leaving it cracked. You get to smell oil fumes inside the cabin when your oil is hot, since it'll be vented under the hood.
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    ive called autozone and all the other auto parts stores and ive explained it and nobody gets what im talking about whats the exact name of that hose
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    I have no idea the exact name, but you won't find it at a normal parts store. Maybe Rockauto and the dealership. It's the one that goes from the rear cover to the throttle body and then to the PCV valve right? I'd try prodding a GM service department for a part number. Describe it and say it's an emissions tube of some kind for the pcv valve.

    If it's in OK shape, just broken, cut the ends off square and link them with some rubber hose that's a tight fit.
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    You could wrap it in electical tape that's what i did on mom and dads venture. Btw their venture has 207K miles and is running fine.
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    mine broke at the elbow going to the intake cover i super glued it for now and its drivable but when it comes apart again it runs ruff but my motor sounds strong no ticking like my gp does with the 3.1,i dont think its a bad investment
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    I've been looking for a nice montana or venture or silhouette to do a l67 swap on. 3rd kid is on the way
    98 GTP modded 1.9's, sd headers, 3.4", zzp 1.0 230K miles scrapped.
    04 Comp G zzp stb's, UMI ta's, Speedbuilt sways, bully flo heads, XP, zzp headers, fsic, thrasher shift kit, 60#, 2.6" corsa 2.5", Inferno hood
    01 gt z7 turbo tep trans zzp motor
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    id go with montana because they have a rpm hand,thats just my preference but thats what im thinkng on mine when this motor dies im taking the top end off of it then putting it on my gp and got another question,are these wired up for a dic i know the 94-96 grand prixs are and this montana is ready for heated seats cause i looked and my motor runs good its just can feel it idling from the inside,how can i fix that
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    They all have the option for a tach. Mom and dad's venture has a tach on it. Your motor mounts may be shot if you can feel it vibrating inside the cabin. I'm assuming you have a 3.1 in your gp? If so then the 3.4 top end is a decent upgrade.
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    im not the smartest in the world but how bad is it to replace them if their shot
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    Keep an eye on your intake... They start to leak and left alone will overheat and blow the head gaskets. We get about 4 or 5 a year that we have to do headgaskets on.
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    Motor mounts are easy just a few bolts and you have to jack the motor up a few inches to clear it. I'm sure your intake has been done by now. Mom and dad's venture had the trans rebuilt (has about 10K on it now) and the head gaskets and intake done (about 3K on it) and they only paid 1600 for it so I think they got a decent deal on it. If you start loosing antifreeze chances are your lower intake mainfold gasket is leaking. Sucks doing that job on a van.
    98 GTP modded 1.9's, sd headers, 3.4", zzp 1.0 230K miles scrapped.
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    ya dsmuts theyve been done already and 99pontiacgp are you talking about running it with that cracked vacum line will cause it to overheat i keep a check on everything but the low coolent light is on the service engine line does sometimes,im gessing because of the line and the airbag light does sometimes and pass key does but it runs good and sounds normal and ****s a lil bit hard when first taking off but my gp does that i can just feel it idling from the inside,and i plan on keeping 10w30 oil in it or whats the best that will make it last a little longer and should i leave the trans alone or drain it
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    fluid and filter change can't hurt the trans. find out what codes it's throwing and we might be able to help out there.
    98 GTP modded 1.9's, sd headers, 3.4", zzp 1.0 230K miles scrapped.
    04 Comp G zzp stb's, UMI ta's, Speedbuilt sways, bully flo heads, XP, zzp headers, fsic, thrasher shift kit, 60#, 2.6" corsa 2.5", Inferno hood
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    No the cracked line shouldn't make it run hot... May make it idle higher though. Low colant light is probably on cause the sensor crapped out. Kinda a normal thing... Just keep an eye on all the fluids and you should be fine.
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    got one more question ive got some sort of leak,i believe its power steering and not oil so i opened the power steering cap and it was filled almost to the very tip top of were the cap screws in,could that be squirting out of the cap and make it hit something hot and make it smoke i got almost 4oz to much out of it today
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    Yeah if you overfill the power steering it will leak out.
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    i took my power steering cap off today,i didnt realize it had a small crack in it so it was coming out of it
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