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  1. #121 Re: $450 Phenolic Intercooler Gen 3 Gen 5 L67 L32 Eaton M90 SuperCharger 3800 3.8 Li 
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    I'm very interested u will have a pm Monday for a l32 gen v
     

  3. #123 Re: $450 Phenolic Intercooler Gen 3 Gen 5 L67 L32 Eaton M90 SuperCharger 3800 3.8 Li 
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    Gen 3 or gen 5 available.
    Should have a machined manifold in a week.
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    Im thinking of trying your intercooler sseil...since i cant get my new stage 2 to seal for the life of me and no matter what i do.
    Gen V, 3.0, Stage 2 heads, XP Cam, SD Headers, N*, LQ4, ZZP Stage 2 Gen 3 Intercooler, CAI, AL 104's Gapped to .055, #130 Springs, 42.5lb Injectors, ZZP Tune.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by GOTIT4CHEAP16 View Post
    Im thinking of trying your intercooler sseil...since i cant get my new stage 2 to seal for the life of me and no matter what i do.
    Do you have a ZZP/WBS stage 2 intercooler? My intercooler isn't much different. In your earlier post you tried RTV the intercooler directly to the manifold and the supercharger, was that with garlock gaskets also?

    You could have a vacuum leak between the 2 plates which come sealed from ZZP/WBS.

    You might want to try RTV only without garlock gaskets. Make sure surfaces are ruffed up (scratches give the RTV something to grab) and degreased. Tighten bolts to a low torque and let the RTV Set. Re-torque the bolts after RTV has cured to proper torque.

    None intercooled superchargers have 2 surfaces that must seal while this style of intercooler adds 4 more surfaces (6 Total)that must seal.

    Hope that helps.....Would still love to sell you a intercooler
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  6. #126 Re: $450 Phenolic Intercooler Gen 3 Gen 5 L67 L32 Eaton M90 SuperCharger 3800 3.8 Li 
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    its a zzp stage 2 gen 3. I used rtv with garlock and it leaked badly. I then made my own using stock gaskets and it still leaked and my ltfts were still at 16.4
    Gen V, 3.0, Stage 2 heads, XP Cam, SD Headers, N*, LQ4, ZZP Stage 2 Gen 3 Intercooler, CAI, AL 104's Gapped to .055, #130 Springs, 42.5lb Injectors, ZZP Tune.

     

  7. #127 Re: $450 Phenolic Intercooler Gen 3 Gen 5 L67 L32 Eaton M90 SuperCharger 3800 3.8 Li 
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    Do you have any specs on the temp drops you get from it and any comparison to the zzp and others?
     

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    I do not have any specifications on temp drops. My core is aluminum construction; 34 fins per inch, 18 water channels and 5/8 diameter connections. 1/4 inch thinner than ZZP/WBS intercooler cores. ZZP's is 28 fins per inch and WBS is 26 fins per inch.

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    Do you have any specs on the temp drops you get from it and any comparison to the zzp and others?
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    have a gen V ready?
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    I'm doing a NIC/L26 build this winter, but I'm thinking tax return time might mean a Gen V/Phenolic IC... I'll let you know how soon I'm ready for one. What's your turn-around like right now?
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    I make 2 intercoolers at a time, when I sell the second one I order more material. Takes about 7 to 10 days to have 2 more ready. I also try and have 1 manifold ready to go all the time.
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    I'm just a tad confused. You say the intercoolers are $450 but then you list these..

    PRJ aluminum intercooler, 2.125 thick, looks cool but they are preorder only, takes months, and expensive. $925 plus manifold.
    ZZP Phenolic intercooler, 2.375 thick, is $850 plus $100 for the manifold.
    ZZP Aluminum intercooler, 2.25 thick, is $$650 plus $100 for the manifold
    WBS Aluminum intercooler(PCV functional with air breather), 2.25 thick, is $550.00 plus $100 for the manifold


    Are those just for reference as to what other companies are asking for prices?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4THGENCAMAROFAN View Post
    I'm just a tad confused. You say the intercoolers are $450 but then you list these..

    PRJ aluminum intercooler, 2.125 thick, looks cool but they are preorder only, takes months, and expensive. $925 plus manifold.
    ZZP Phenolic intercooler, 2.375 thick, is $850 plus $100 for the manifold.
    ZZP Aluminum intercooler, 2.25 thick, is $$650 plus $100 for the manifold
    WBS Aluminum intercooler(PCV functional with air breather), 2.25 thick, is $550.00 plus $100 for the manifold


    Are those just for reference as to what other companies are asking for prices?
    Yes I am listing the Material Used/Thickness/Prices/Comment

    I also give links to there websites

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    PRJ PRJ
    ZZP ZZP
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