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    I'm getting ready to do a top swap on my 99 grand prix gt, i was planning on getting 1.9 rockers with 105# springs, but then i thought about swapping my cam for the xp hot cam.

    How hard would it be to swap a cam with the engine still in the car?

    Also if i go with the cam instead, would i just keep the stock rockers and just upgrade the springs and retainers?
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    if you can get your hands on a cam id do cam over rockers any day. cam you can use stock rockers and 130# springs.
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    Would i be able to use the stock timing chain with an xp hot cam or am i going to have to upgrade?
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    You can use a stock chain just get a new replacement and a new dampener too.
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    Cam > rockers. And like smutty said just buy a new stock chain and dampener.
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    Thanks guys!

    Any other info i need to know about upgrading the cam?

    This will be my first time removing/ installing a cam so i just want to be sure i do it right.
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    There are a few write ups on putting in a cam. They should help you out.
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    It's pretty easy to swap one
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    Would i need modified retainers? Also what about the push rods?

    Yeah i found this write up http://www.3800pro.com/forum/cams-he...-l67-tech.html

    From what i read it doesn't seem that hard.

    My only worry would be scratching the new cam when installing.
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    You'll need modded retainers. Push rods should be fine. Use assembly lube on the cam and you won't have to worry.
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    Ok thank you!

    I was wondering what kind of head gasket you guys use? I can't decide on fel pro or cometic MLS.

    Instead of xp hot cam i think i'm gonna go with the intense s1x cam, would 130# springs be fine with stock rocker arms to?

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    Cam is easy.. did it my garage, motor still in car... XP Cam... If I did it again I would pull the motor because.. well thats just 1000 times easier and I have the tools to do that
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    Felpros worked great on the 2 topswaps I've done. 130# springs on fine on stock rockers, I like the s1x from the research that I've done.

    for a topswap just get the topswap gasket kit from zzp, will save you money in the long run. Ask me how I know lol
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    with the addition of water pump gasket and front cover gasket for the cam.
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    Make sure you close your hood if it rains and your outside working on your top swap... ask him how he knows.
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    No need for head gaskets doing a cam swap. I use felpro though for what it's worth. Rockers will be fine
    98 GTP modded 1.9's, sd headers, 3.4", zzp 1.0 230K miles scrapped.
    04 Comp G zzp stb's, UMI ta's, Speedbuilt sways, bully flo heads, XP, zzp headers, fsic, thrasher shift kit, 60#, 2.6" corsa 2.5", Inferno hood
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsmuts View Post
    No need for head gaskets doing a cam swap. I use felpro though for what it's worth. Rockers will be fine
    He's doing a topswap... so he needs head gaskets.
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    My bad you're doing a top swap too
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    You need top gaskets and swap gaskets and rain gaskets
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    Quote Originally Posted by blueguy View Post
    You need top gaskets and swap gaskets and rain gaskets

    Really? Rain gaskets? lol
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