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    Hoping for advice, tips, thoughts. Anyone else have this happen?

    Last week I changed my oil. Last night I went to check the oil level, on general purpose & for piece of mind. I pulled the dip stick out, wipe it clean, stuck the dip stick back in the tube, pulled it out, & the yellow plastic stopper(?) with the rubber o-ring seal was gone.....

    It was still in the oil level tube / oil pan - f'n thing came off the end of the dip stick.

    I terrified of where a piece of it might end up. So I haven't moved or started it. Today after work I jacked up the front end & crawled under it to to see what it would take to drop the oil pan in hopes of finding the plastic & rubber pieces.

    I'm not in a very good mood. Seems like a lot of stuff has to come off to get the pan out, and not even sure where to start?

    Can anyone chime in? Would rolling engine make the pan / bolts accessible? I'm worried a piece broken crap might get past the oil pump filter, & clog or ruin the oil pump? I can't afford a catstrophic failure. Am I being paranoid?

    Any help, does & don'ts, is greatly appreciated!
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    Well removing the pan is a pita. Those little stoppers and o-rings are common, I've seen lots of em broke off. But unless it actually breaks in half it shouldn't even make it past the curves on the dipstick. You sure it fell in there?
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    Ok, thanks. I was thinking of removing the tube. I'll give it a shot. But, I'm afraid the pieces are in pieces, the dip stick slides completely into the tube, with no resistance, it's not like the dip stick hitting any pieces in the tube.

    I need to drain the oil before removing tube, right?
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    take a small screw and screw it into the plastic that is stick in the dip stick tube then pull it out, i have had to do this before

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    What brandon said. ^^ and if what NR92 said dont work, the tube for the dipstick is easy to remove there are 2 nuts on the manifold studd remove them and pull the tube out try to push it out from the other end with a metal cloths hanger
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    Hey B. Ya, I'm sure. It was on there when I put the dip stick in the tube, pulled it out 2 seconds later, & it was not. I didn't even blink. Felt like I was kicked in the gut. The top / handle of the dip stick was chipped / broken when I got the car, the plastic was very brittle. It was one of the first things I noticed when I first popped the hood. I thought, "just replace it, no big deal", then when I pulled it out and saw it had stopper / o-ring seal, I said "no worries, the oil is safe down there." urggg
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    i would pull the dipstick tube out. like slick said it's a peice of cake to remove it. and pray that it's in there. if not... er. not sure what to tell ya.
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    even if its in the bottom of the pan its not going to go inside the engine. Maybe one day when you drain it it will come out
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    Nope..Remove the one 13mm nut, wiggle and pull upwards. With teh bends in the tube..you are almost guaranteed it's still in the tube. If not.. drain the oil and it will likely pop right out being plastic..it should float on the oil.

    The good news is..it would sit in the pan w/o causing any trouble. It can't get sucked into the oil pump because the screen on the pick up. And it won't clog that or hurt anything either. If it were my car and it wasn't in the tube...I'd drive on and call it my funny little car quirk.
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    No you dont need to drain the oil to remove the tube, the tube is in a position on the block that is higher than the oil level in the crankcase.
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    I thought about trying to drain it in hopes the pieces would fall out, but that seemed like a gamble.

    lol, Bill, I didn't think of that, the plastic should float.

    Thanks guys, one and all, you come thru again, your the best.

    I'll make time between tonight and tomorrow night and report back.
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    Mines been broken for a while lol I tried suer glue once but then it broke again. completely forgot about it until I read this lol. I did notice that it shouldnt be able to pass farther than a few inches down the tube, as it gets smaller.
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    Yeah it wont hurt anything being in the pan.
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    this happened on my 97 GT, I let it sit in there till I could make it to a junk yard and pick up a better one and got a spare.
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    So I removed the tube and it was clear. So I changed the oil and oil filter (why not at this point), and no sign of any pieces or parts. I know the oil pump has a screen, but I have never actually held one in my hand, so I didn't know how fine it filters, my main concern was hurting the pump. I was kind of expecting to find them in the oil, but I'm going to stop being a worry-wort and just let it go.

    I used a vaccumn line connector to help "seal" the dip stick in the tube, perfect fit at the tube and it streches pretty tight around the dip stick. Seals good enough for me to start and warm the engine up w/o blowing oil out. Good enough for me to put a few miles on it with no problems so far--knock on wood. I ordred new dip stick for $9.

    Again, THANKS!
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