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    Okay guys, I'm sure this was outlined in the brake sticky but I couldn't quite piece together the info I wanted. I have a 2001 GP GTP, I have stock rear brakes and upgraded front brakes.

    The fronts are broken down as follows:
    Stock '01 GTP caliper
    2001 Monte Carlo SS Braket
    2001 Monte Carlo SS Rotor (303mm)
    Stock '01 GTP pads

    What I want to know is:
    With my current brake setup, can I put the dual piston '06+ Impala calipers on without changing anything else?
    And if not to the above question, will using '06+ Impala calipers with ,06+ Impala brackets, and '01 Monte SS rotors work? Will that system be compatible?

    Of course, if I use the Impala calipers, I will be buying Impala pads as well.
    Thanks for the help!
    '01 GP GTP- Intake, Plog, 3" DP and Exhaust, DHP tuned by me, GMPP sway bars, 3.5 MPS, cold plugs and tstat
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    You need the impala bracket, caliper and rotor and pads
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    So they aren't the same Rotor? That's why I was confused on the brake thread, everyone just refers to a 12" Rotor but its different across cars. What about the F body dual piston caliper and matching bracket, will they work with my current rotors?
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    Looking at my fbody rotor and Impala rotor , the hats alone are different. The impala rotor hat looks to taper off and the fbody one doesn't.

    The 12" brake upgrade just allows clearance for the 12" rotor.

    To run any dual caliper you need the corresponding bracket.
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    Okay so I have found that the rotors on the 2001 Monte SS is the same rotors on the 2001 F body. So the calipers and brakets will fit over them perfect!
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    I just bought everything to do this conversion the Impala rotors are a quarter inch bigger all around I bought the caliper and bracket from rock auto they are refurbished but look like new $117 shipped to my door $50 for eBay brakes and rotors for an 06 impala i get the same ones every time on all my vehicles and I do 120-0 stops in gp and still never warp the rotors
    04 GT2: 180 t-stat, cold air intake, reptile tune, plog, hv3, gt1 cam, 90#springs, new push rods, new lifters, port polished heads, lim, uim and tb, 06 Impala brakes and steel brake lines. Cosmetic: black roof rails, under glow, Pontiac ground light, blue hud dic radio controls and cluster. To come custom hood.
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    Prime choice is who I get through eBay
    04 GT2: 180 t-stat, cold air intake, reptile tune, plog, hv3, gt1 cam, 90#springs, new push rods, new lifters, port polished heads, lim, uim and tb, 06 Impala brakes and steel brake lines. Cosmetic: black roof rails, under glow, Pontiac ground light, blue hud dic radio controls and cluster. To come custom hood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dadkota View Post
    Okay so I have found that the rotors on the 2001 Monte SS is the same rotors on the 2001 F body. So the calipers and brakets will fit over them perfect!
    No. No way. That's not what I said at all lol
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    Your saying because your rotor now is the same one used for the FBody - justifying that the impala caliper will fit, is completely wrong. As I said the impala upgrade needs its own hardware ex: caliper , bracket , rotor and pads
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    They really do its all a fraction of an inch different and that little bit will through everything off

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    Sure. Let's do things half-assery now cause someone online said its OK

    "do it right or don't bother"
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    I want to do it right for sure, what I meant to say is the F body calipers and brakets will fit with the Monte Rotor as long as I get the bolt kit from ZZP so the spacing is correct. Correct? Sorry for the misunderstanding
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dadkota View Post
    Okay guys, I'm sure this was outlined in the brake sticky but I couldn't quite piece together the info I wanted. I have a 2001 GP GTP, I have stock rear brakes and upgraded front brakes.

    The fronts are broken down as follows:
    Stock '01 GTP caliper
    2001 Monte Carlo SS Braket
    2001 Monte Carlo SS Rotor (303mm)
    Stock '01 GTP pads

    What I want to know is:
    With my current brake setup, can I put the dual piston '06+ Impala calipers on without changing anything else?
    And if not to the above question, will using '06+ Impala calipers with ,06+ Impala brackets, and '01 Monte SS rotors work? Will that system be compatible?

    Of course, if I use the Impala calipers, I will be buying Impala pads as well.
    Thanks for the help!
    This is what I answered for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dadkota View Post
    I want to do it right for sure, what I meant to say is the F body calipers and brakets will fit with the Monte Rotor as long as I get the bolt kit from ZZP so the spacing is correct. Correct? Sorry for the misunderstanding
    I'm confused. Do you want impala dual piston calipers or f body dual piston calipers ?
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    why the hell are you buying brake parts from zzp? you want to get robbed?

    pick what brakes you want, then get them. you dont go mixing this and that crap up. you want proper brakes or not?

    theres a reason calipers brackets and rotors go as a set.

    so stop asking if you can use X rotor with Y caliper and z bracket, your wasting all our time.

    and once again, F zzp. all that crap can be found so much cheaper.

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    The reason I am putting it that way is because there are so many upgrades that can be pieced together from other factory GM cars. I want dual piston F body brakes, but I already have the correct rotors I believe via 12" upgrade from Monte SS. You're talking about not being ripped off, I want to make sure my info is correct so that I'm not spending more money on rotors that I already have on the car!
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    iirc this is all been hashed over, where they may fit and look ok, they are not the same rotors.

    mixing brakes parts is not recommended. its why they make them as a set, if the part# dont cross over, its not a perfect fit.

    buy new rotors, they are like 40 a side for centric blanks. most say they work best.

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    Fbody



    4 12mm fbody caliper bracket bolts (12x1.75x40mm)


    Mcmaster 6679k16


    you can buy brand new calipers with bracket from advance auto using discount codes for $30 a side. Give them your old calipers as a core
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    00-05 Impala rotors = F-bodies 06+ Impala's are their own thing, and are NOT the same.
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    Thank you! That's exactly the info I was searching for!
    '01 GP GTP- Intake, Plog, 3" DP and Exhaust, DHP tuned by me, GMPP sway bars, 3.5 MPS, cold plugs and tstat
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