Sub change up

**06PONTGP** · 01-21-2013

ok im getting older and liking the sq more but stil want some bump....heres what im running now(whole set up)

focal performance comp. 6.5 and tweet
forcal acess 6x9
both powered by infinity 475a 4 chann
then 2 alpine type r 12s in a ported box
powered by alpine mrp-m1000 @ 1ohm

im looking in one sub eith a 12, 13.5 or 15 i have it narrowed down between jl 13.5w6v2, jl 12w7 or image dynamics idmax v4 12 or 15

i know there are some audio people that could help me out im leaning toward the image but open to opinions and other options

**Anthony Smith** · 01-21-2013

Ive always felt like Jl stuff was a lot of $$$$ just for the name. Ive never been really impressed by their stuff when I've heard it in person. Personally I love my RE. I have a single SX 12 on 900 wrms in 2.75cu ported to 32hz and it straight up rocks. The leads tore out of the coil after 3 years though. Now it has a custom recone on the sx motor and basket with sewn double leads and all the goodies. If I was to start fresh with nothing I would pick up a monster motor on the car audio forums, a basket that worked with it in whatever size I decided on, then send it out and have it built with the really good soft parts like mine has now. Total cost would be under $350.

**lilmidge12** · 01-21-2013

i have a re audio sxx 12 dual coil 2 ohm sub and people have said it is louder than the w7 that jl audio has and it was cheaper but built really well

**jteske88** · 01-22-2013

wow got some ppl bumping the RE audio. Myself i have 2 12's The older se models before it went to japan crap. Rocking 1500rms per dmm. If your looking at anything jl audio there will be much better options for the money.

**lilmidge12** · 01-22-2013

im looking to get a bigger box then get another sxx 12

**06PONTGP** · 01-22-2013

re is garbage now the old owner now runs Fi car audio....and i am starting to feel the same about jl but i will admit their new hd amp line is the cleanest i have seen with focal right with them

**lilmidge12** · 01-22-2013

not gonna lie....i ****ing blew my re tonight.....thinking ima go Fi didnt know that about the old owner. still debating on re or Fi

**jteske88** · 01-23-2013

yeah re actually started remaking there old line stuff and rebadging it with the word "pro". Same old designs built in us with china parts lol. I will gladly keep my original se's in silver baskets any day. And when i burn up them 04 circa coils imma have em rubuilt to really take a beating. good luck OP.

Originally Posted by 06PONTGP

re is garbage now the old owner now runs Fi car audio....and i am starting to feel the same about jl but i will admit their new hd amp line is the cleanest i have seen with focal right with them

**jteske88** · 01-23-2013

fi is good but there is more choices out tehre man, head over to CA.com and poke around. Like i had said in my previous post, any thing re in a black basket is gonna be garbo.

Originally Posted by lilmidge12

not gonna lie....i ****ing blew my re tonight.....thinking ima go Fi didnt know that about the old owner. still debating on re or Fi

**rcdino1978** · 01-23-2013

I picked up a 12" Soundstream Tarantula T5, just powered by a small MTX Monoblock for now for the blazer, got it for dirt cheap, and it out pounds my buddy's pair of 15" DB Drive's with a MBQuart Discus 1500.1, and it hits harder, has better overall range. I was gonna amp the crap out of it and see what it would do, but now that the baby's almost here, I am most likely gonna have to take it out and throw it in the GP.

**jteske88** · 01-23-2013

so you went from re to this?

**GrandPrixgtp2000** · 01-23-2013

I would say FI or ascendant audio

**jteske88** · 01-23-2013

yeah ssa could get the job done, hell sundown, ssa, fi, ia, re. Just not kicker lol

**lilmidge12** · 01-23-2013

lol i would never go kicker...i had one that i payed 50 for and it was a l7 and it was loud for the first 2 days then fryed

**jteske88** · 01-23-2013

yeah they smell like poo pretty easily, what you set your gains with?

**lilmidge12** · 01-23-2013

honestly just go by the ear...i wish i had a different way to tune amps but i mean i know how to tune them without them blowing i just put it to its fullest pottential

**jteske88** · 01-23-2013

you ever use a multi meter? by ear doesnt mean anything man. just cause you think its good dont mean anything. IF you take a volt me to set you can set your amp to reach its potentiol and still be within reason of clipping

**lilmidge12** · 01-23-2013

how would u use a volt meter to tune it? i never done it before

**jteske88** · 01-23-2013

well tune and setting gains are 2 different things, set gains properly will ensure your subs dont puff out smoke, tuneing is all done by ear unless you have a meade calibrator

**LeadfootCJ7** · 01-23-2013

Originally Posted by Anthony Smith

Ive always felt like Jl stuff was a lot of $$$$ just for the name. Ive never been really impressed by their stuff when I've heard it in person. Personally I love my RE. I have a single SX 12 on 900 wrms in 2.75cu ported to 32hz and it straight up rocks. The leads tore out of the coil after 3 years though. Now it has a custom recone on the sx motor and basket with sewn double leads and all the goodies. If I was to start fresh with nothing I would pick up a monster motor on the car audio forums, a basket that worked with it in whatever size I decided on, then send it out and have it built with the really good soft parts like mine has now. Total cost would be under $350.

I would agree. I used to run JL audio 10's in my car. I paid $$$ for them and built boxes specific to their specs. When the foam surround came off (not the first time JL's had done this to me) I decided I was done with them. I bought some Image Dynamics 10's to replace them. They were the basic Image Dynamic's 10's, not the high $$$ bad boy. the Image Dynamics subs out performed the JL's in every way and have never given me one bit of trouble.