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    alright well as some of you know i am going to buy a new pioneer avh-p1400dvd head unit and i want to bypass the parking break. im also aware that you cant just ground the parking break wire cause it has to be grounded after the unit is turned on. so i need a 12v relay... if any of you have suggestions on a specific relay feel free to suggest one. also what size is the wire of the head unit harness? because i need to know what size female connector to get as i am clueless what size i need and how wide the prongs on the relay are so i can use the female connectors on the relay. also if you know how many wires are in the harness by chance and could tell me so i know how many butt connectors to buy thatd be awesome too. thanks for the help
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    Usually around 18 -20ga isn't it? The wires are pretty small. As for the parking brake i know there's a work around. Do some googling.
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    I had a touch screen dvd player in 1 of my old cars and all I did was I'm in the parking brake wire to switch and grounded out the switch
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    run a parking brake wire to a switch *
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    yes the way to bypass it is with a relay I just don't know what size the wires or prongs on relay are to get the right female connectors
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    If you head to the parts stores etc..most of the prongs/connectors are meant to work together. I've never looked at the sizing other than the gauge of the wire for the connector.

    What you need to do is run a ground wire to pins 30 and 85 from the body or the radio ground. Run the amp turn on wire from your head unit (blue/white) to pin 86 and then run your parking brake wire from the radio to pin 87. If your relay also has an 87A, do not connect anything to it.

    What this will do is make the radio connect it's own ground to the parking brake wire when it turns on the remote amp. I've tested this in a Pioneer a couple of times and it works great.
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    well I was planning on buying the items off amazon and needed to know what ones to get
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    These would work. Sorry there's no size reference
    Female connector
    Amazon.com: American Terminal E-FFR250N-100 22/18-Gauge Economy Nylon Fully-Insulated Female Quick Disconnects: Car Electronics

    Relay
    Amazon.com: Install Bay Tyco Relay 12 Volt 30 Amp Each -E-123: Electronics

    Nice relay connector, instead of the female piece connectors, you could get this one piece unit.
    Amazon.com: 12 VDC 5-PIN RELAY SOCKET: Electronics
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    yeah I saw that single connector but I'd rather use the female connectors but I only need like 4 maybe up to 10 not 100 of them lol
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    I searched quick for a pic of the right thing...not the right quantity. I'm kinda glad you looked..lol
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    yeah no sense having a ton of extra's ill never use. thanks though!
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    so should i get butt connectors that are also 22/18 gauge?
    also i think i may just get that bag of 100 cause it seems to be the cheapest
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillBoost37 View Post
    If you head to the parts stores etc..most of the prongs/connectors are meant to work together. I've never looked at the sizing other than the gauge of the wire for the connector.

    What you need to do is run a ground wire to pins 30 and 85 from the body or the radio ground. Run the amp turn on wire from your head unit (blue/white) to pin 86 and then run your parking brake wire from the radio to pin 87. If your relay also has an 87A, do not connect anything to it.

    What this will do is make the radio connect it's own ground to the parking brake wire when it turns on the remote amp. I've tested this in a Pioneer a couple of times and it works great.
    now if i have the pioneer wire harness right (taken from owners manual)



    i take the black wire and then connect it to the black wire here to hook up the radio regularly




    ...but to add the relay, would i just splice the wire somewhere in there (at butt connector) or plug the one from the pioneer to the relay? and then dont plug it to the adapter
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    Sorry..missed this until know. Still have questions or do you have it all set?
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    nope. i bought all the stuff and they fit! thanks for the help!
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