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    Hey guys. I'm new here and have spent hours going over the forum looking for suggestions on how to upgrade the system on my 2002. Problem is I'm more confused then when I started.

    I've got a small budget, $250. The stock system is the standard cd w/eq, tweeters, 5.25 door and 6x9 deck speakers. The only thing I've done so far is add an aux jack so I an use an Ipod.

    I'd like better sound with more solid bass. Is it a mistake to keep the factory head? Initial thought is that I need to to keep the budget low but then I see something like this Clarion-CZ200-CZ-200 which will take a steering wheel adapter kit(later) but does give me preamp outputs now so I wouldn't need o buy a converter.

    The only thing I'm positive of is I'm going with 6.5 components in the doors. The reviews look pretty good on the Hifonics-Zeus-ZXi-6.5C.

    I'm thinking a single 8 inch sub and building my own box, looking at an RE-Audio-SRI10D2. Would this be a good choice for an amp MTX-Audio-Terminator-TN250-1

    Rear speakers? 6x9s are the obvious "not to use". Many seem to suggest no rears. Shouldn't I have something back there so friends in the cheap seats don't hear all bass?

    I'm open to any suggestions, thanks.






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    This is all my opinion, so don't take it for granted. There will be varied opinions, but only yours matters.

    Quote Originally Posted by 2002red View Post
    Hey guys. I'm new here and have spent hours going over the forum looking for suggestions on how to upgrade the system on my 2002. Problem is I'm more confused then when I started.

    I've got a small budget, $250. The stock system is the standard cd w/eq, tweeters, 5.25 door and 6x9 deck speakers. The only thing I've done so far is add an aux jack so I an use an Ipod.

    I'd like better sound with more solid bass. Is it a mistake to keep the factory head? Initial thought is that I need to to keep the budget low but then I see something like this Clarion-CZ200-CZ-200 which will take a steering wheel adapter kit(later) but does give me preamp outputs now so I wouldn't need o buy a converter.

    Looks like a good headunit for that price. Factor in the cost of a mount kit though, which, if bought from Walmart (I have made the kit @ Walmart work with 01-03 GP's) will cost about $25-$30 and about an hour of your time.

    The only thing I'm positive of is I'm going with 6.5 components in the doors. The reviews look pretty good on the Hifonics-Zeus-ZXi-6.5C.

    Hifonics is good budget stuff, but I've heard some great reviews on Crescendo's CCX65 comp set, but it's $99. Just make sure you can do the mod to fit 6.5" speakers in the 5.25" slot

    I'm thinking a single 8 inch sub and building my own box, looking at an RE-Audio-SRI10D2. Would this be a good choice for an amp MTX-Audio-Terminator-TN250-1

    Sub looks good (although it is a 10" sub compared to you saying an 8"). Amp, probably not so much. You can only either wire that sub to 1 ohm or 4 ohms, so you want to aim at something like that. I'd suggest the Audiopipe AP400.1D. Audiopipe has been getting good reviews for their upper power amplifiers on a budget, and I'm about to test their AP1500.1D out for myself, but if you find something that pushes 400 watts RMS at 4 ohms, let us know.

    Rear speakers? 6x9s are the obvious "not to use". Many seem to suggest no rears. Shouldn't I have something back there so friends in the cheap seats don't hear all bass?

    It's all personal preference. I stuck a pair of Pioneer 6x9's in for the stock, my dad's 6x9's crapped out on him (aftermarket too, but they were $20 lol), and you can tell a difference in the sound. I'd say just pop a good pair in there, or if you feel up to it, get a 5.25" component set and make your own mount.

    I'm open to any suggestions, thanks.

    Gave mine. Hope it helps.


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    Thanks Iceman. Is the Walmart mount much different than the Schosche kit that Sonic supplies?

    I did mean 10 on the sub, didn't realize it had 2 voice coils though. I was just looking at the 2 ohm and an amp that wouldn't overpower it. Told you I needed help I'll check out the Audiopipe.

    If I throw a new head into the mix rears are out of the budget for now.
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    Looked at the Audiopipe, it's class D as opposed to others I've seen. Would you suggest running it at 4 ohm? Would run cooler and should be enough output since it is class D?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2002red View Post
    Thanks Iceman. Is the Walmart mount much different than the Schosche kit that Sonic supplies?

    I did mean 10 on the sub, didn't realize it had 2 voice coils though. I was just looking at the 2 ohm and an amp that wouldn't overpower it. Told you I needed help I'll check out the Audiopipe.

    If I throw a new head into the mix rears are out of the budget for now.
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    I have no idea. There's a GM mount kit that Walmart keeps in stock, but the one specifically for 01-03 GP's I think they recommend to special order, but I used the earlier model one, once you find the right bracket, will fit into the '01-'03 mounts
    Haha no problem. That headunit looks fine for what you need, just make sure you have a mount kit for it.

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    Looked at the Audiopipe, it's class D as opposed to others I've seen. Would you suggest running it at 4 ohm? Would run cooler and should be enough output since it is class D?
    If they are like the other Audiopipe amplifiers, then you should be fine at 1 ohm. Most A/B class amplifiers are not meant for 1 ohm applications, or even 2 ohm. I haven't found much on the lower wattage versions, but the upper wattages of the same class have had excellent reviews for the price. Run it at 1 ohm, with your subwoofer running parallel (one coil wired up to the other) and you should be okay. Also, make sure you have money for a wiring kit; for something like that, you should be fine with 8 gauge wiring.

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    If you really want rears then why would you put 5.25's back there?

    6.5's or bust.

    Larger the sub, the more noise it makes for the money.
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    With my lack of budget rears are on hold for now. When I do add some would it be just the woofers for midrange or should tweeters be added as well?

    As far as a larger sub it doesn't seem like larger will fit in my budget of $250 ($300 tops)



    That doesn't leave much for wiring, converter and the sub.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2002red View Post
    With my lack of budget rears are on hold for now. When I do add some would it be just the woofers for midrange or should tweeters be added as well?

    As far as a larger sub it doesn't seem like larger will fit in my budget of $250 ($300 tops)



    That doesn't leave much for wiring, converter and the sub.
    If you really want the sub, then I'd say drop the Comp set for now. The stock door speakers sound fine even on aftermarket H/U power. I have mine on 50w RMS and they are getting me by fine, as long as you set them up with a good crossover on the H/U.

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    ok , first off go with 5.25 in the front doors , not that much of a mid-bass responce difference to a 6.5 , sub wise i would do 2 decent 10's or a good 12 . as for the 6x9's the heck with em , havent had any in mine in years and the opening allows the sub or subs to breathe better plus a 3db gain from it hitting the back glass . but i would definately recommend a small amp to run the doors , nothing huge , just a cheap 2 channel will work for now. like a walmart sony amp . but one thing i cant reccomend more is save you money for a bit longer , its well worth it to have good equipment in the long run
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    6.5's will produce more midbass.... and are less likely to hit xmax ( but they all will)
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    Hey guys. I'm new here and have spent hours going over the forum looking for suggestions on how to upgrade the system on my 2002. Problem is I'm more confused then when I started.

    I've got a small budget, $250. The stock system is the standard cd w/eq, tweeters, 5.25 door and 6x9 deck speakers. The only thing I've done so far is add an aux jack so I an use an Ipod.
    Depending on the Aux jack u use ull lose SQ and bass and the stock headunit wont put out great sq but its okay. For a while i ran a fm transmitter but it put out a tiny amount of bass compared to a CD

    I'd like better sound with more solid bass. Is it a mistake to keep the factory head? Initial thought is that I need to to keep the budget low but then I see something like this Clarion-CZ200-CZ-200 which will take a steering wheel adapter kit(later) but does give me preamp outputs now so I wouldn't need o buy a converter.
    Good headunit for the money, but it your trying to save cash, for my first bass setup on my GP i ran the scosche line output converter walmart sells, it only ran me twenty bucks. I installed it just by tapping into my rear 6x9's wiring. When i upgraded headunits i just cut off the wires and taped em up. It made plenty of bass, or atleast as much as you can on a boss 600.2 and an RE REX10 D4 sub. So if your strapped for cash you can do it, just make sure your amp has a remote bass knob otherwise ull have to turn the bass down at the HU and that will also lower your midbass levels since the stock HU only has bass and treble. Unless you for some reason have the 5 band equilizer from factory, if you do im sure you could last a while without upgrading.

    The only thing I'm positive of is I'm going with 6.5 components in the doors. The reviews look pretty good on the Hifonics-Zeus-ZXi-6.5C.
    Agreed there not bad for the money, but there are much better speakers, ide keep researching em if i were you. Im not sure about value for money on many other companies.

    I'm thinking a single 8 inch sub and building my own box, looking at an RE-Audio-SRI10D2. Would this be a good choice for an amp MTX-Audio-Terminator-TN250-1
    I actually own the RE SR sub since the SRi is discontinued, its the same sub, its RE audio's SQ woofer ull get alot of bass out of it but what i like about it is it reaches the higher highs and the deeper lows which alot of off the shelf ones at places like bestbuy cant do. and if you get the D2 version (i already figured you meant 10 inch since the only RE 8 inch is the REx) the MTX Monoblocks have two speaker outputs already to make install easier so all you have to do is run a power and ground wire from each coil to the amp and ull be running 200 rms which should be perfect for that sub, but it can handle alot more if you choose.

    Rear speakers? 6x9s are the obvious "not to use". Many seem to suggest no rears. Shouldn't I have something back there so friends in the cheap seats don't hear all bass?
    I like my 6x9's, they can put out bass close to a sub if you do it right, but its really a preference. If you remove the 6x9's ide say do one of three things. Leave em empty but ull lose the mid fill from the back, replace em with 6.5's theres a larger selection of well made 6.5's, or replace em with 5.25 just for filler.

    I'm open to any suggestions, thanks.

    Im not the most experienced guy on here but i hope atleast some of this helps
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