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  1. #1 Wont idle without gas being pressed. 
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    Car: 1999 GTP: L26 top swap w/ Gen v on a stock pulley and a custom cam headers and a few other things.

    I recently swapped cams and loaded a base tune and it would idle fine, just a bit noisy because i didn't tighten the rocker bolts down enough. It also started first try and didnt smoke. Then i thought, while ive got the engine partially apart again why not gen v swap. Now she refuses to stay running without the help of my foot. It cranks and tries to fire once out of every 6-7 times. I also may have screwed up my starter because now all i hear is a whirring noise when i press the start button. She also smoked a bit, like a light whitish smoke when i did have it running.

    Edit:I did notice the gen v case is insanely close to the alt power bolt which may be causing issues. Im at work right now so scanning wont happen until late tonight early tomorrow.

    Id like to get it running right so i can accept a friend's race challenge.
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    I may also need a vac line diagram from a gen v swap.
    98' GP coupe NIC Pacesetters, E85, FSIC, 2.6, heads, blah
    11.82 @ 118.4 with a 1.8 60ft
    Retired: 99' Regal GS Turbo 11.428 @ 122.61 1.7 60ft.
    Retired: 99 GTP top swap nic setup. 13.37@106
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    Everything is the same except for the PCV, it gets routed to the throttle body(that you drilled\tapped) or adapter plate (if it has PCV provisions). I personally used the Gen V evap solenoid with no problems, but I've read you can just cover the Gen V evap hole and use the factory solenoid\vacuum line if you wanted.
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    I was messing with it yesterday and noticed that there was gas in the oil. Any ideas as to how that is happening?
    98' GP coupe NIC Pacesetters, E85, FSIC, 2.6, heads, blah
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    stuck injector? all cylinders firing?
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    Maybe i set the torque wrench too high and over tightened the rocker bolts?
    98' GP coupe NIC Pacesetters, E85, FSIC, 2.6, heads, blah
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    Retired: 99' Regal GS Turbo 11.428 @ 122.61 1.7 60ft.
    Retired: 99 GTP top swap nic setup. 13.37@106
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    You'd have to REALLY over tighten them to do anything like that, and even then something would break. Check fuel pressure with KOEO and see if it drops.
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    Rocker bolts would snap first.

    Which TB are you using?
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    ^^^That's what I thought, either that or strip the heads. I heard those PRJ rocker bolts are supposedly really strong.
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    Im using an l67 throttle body
    98' GP coupe NIC Pacesetters, E85, FSIC, 2.6, heads, blah
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    Retired: 99 GTP top swap nic setup. 13.37@106
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    How are you applying vacuum to the pcv and what did you do with evap?
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    Ive got a small breather attached to the nipple on the gen v. The evap is blocked off.
    98' GP coupe NIC Pacesetters, E85, FSIC, 2.6, heads, blah
    11.82 @ 118.4 with a 1.8 60ft
    Retired: 99' Regal GS Turbo 11.428 @ 122.61 1.7 60ft.
    Retired: 99 GTP top swap nic setup. 13.37@106
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