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  1. #1 Is this head junk? 
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    Got some heads of another group and when.they shipped them, they did not wrap them well and the heads got nicked up, can these be machined or filed down? Working with seller now but just wondering if these are complete junk now?





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    i'd file them smooth and call it good.

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    Thats what I was thinking, the runners are already smoothed out and I was gonna use my current heads as a spare to port and polish...thinking if I file it and copper spray it would be good I hope.
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    if its just the edges like in the pics id think you ok.

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    Yeah those nicks are the only damage...rest is all good.
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    Yea I would clean them up smooth and give them a shot.
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    you could take them to an engine shop and have them pressure check them after you put the valvetrain in to be sure. I can't be sure but it looks like there might be a very small crack between the valve seats or it just could be the angle
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    Looks like a crack to me as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick2500 View Post
    Looks like a crack to me as well.
    First picture right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HighOctaneRacing View Post
    First picture right?
    Yup and I can kinda see it in the last picture too. Inside the red circle.

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    Those should be no problem after you smoothed off the sharp edges. You could even have them decked .020-.030 if you wanted.( not sure how much material there is between the bottom and the water jacket area)
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    Here is a close up of the first pic. I dont see a crack. There is a scratch but doesnt look like a crack up close and under light. Other question is seller said the bowls were not touched but oviously one was. Looks super close to the valve the seat?????



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    No between the valve seats.
    Circled in red
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    Quote Originally Posted by timboku View Post
    Here is a close up of the first pic. I dont see a crack. There is a scratch but doesnt look like a crack up close and under light. Other question is seller said the bowls were not touched but oviously one was. Looks super close to the valve the seat?????


    That valve seat looks funky as **** for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick2500 View Post
    Yup and I can kinda see it in the last picture too. Inside the red circle.


    If there is a crack there I wouldnt worry about it much honestly.. Thats where most of them crack at.
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    Close up of seat...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman6669 View Post
    That valve seat looks funky as **** for sure.
    You think its still usable?

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    seats are fine... a huge crack might leak a tiny bit.. its not really enough to worry about.
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    id lay a gasket on the surface and de-shroud the valve at the point with a die grinder. do all the cylinders.
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    Awesome thanks for the responses!
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