Thread: header install advice.

i'll be ordering a set of pacesetters after work tonight. (finally) and i was looking into how to install them. i cant find a good write up. the only one i could find on here the domain was shut down. anyone have one? or could explain the best way to get to the rear manifold? the front seems easy to get to. and i know to soak the bolts real good the night before. but any other good tips on getting the bolts off? thanks! and if there are any other threads that have the write up the link would be good. i looked just couldnt find a good one. i think the headers will make a big difference.

i dont know how pacesetters are, but the easiest way to get the rear in is from the top. you just have to pull the engine forwards as far as you can with the dogbones off and a strap from the motor to the front of the frame.

also, look into a better set of clamps because ive heard nothing but complaints about the ones they come with.

welding the rear section with pacesetters seems to be the way to go. and they will still slide in from the top.
Hope this helps!

yea the clamps BLOW. get some good band clamps. im still looking for some good ones for mine :/

and for the back header, pretty much i slid them up from the bottom while a buddy laid on the motor and tighten them down.

also when you go to tighten the down pipe down, make sure its not pulling down on your cat-back. mine was at first and my mufflers were hitting the underside of my car. just an FYI

thanks for all the info. and i've been looking into headers for a while and have seen all the complaints about the leak at the Y pipe. as far as i know the zzp package fixes it? i know its a much tighter fit with it. anyone know from experience? from what zzp says if you pay 42 bucks you get a better y pipe and gaskets. and i was hoping that it was easiest from the top. my manual i bought said to go from underneath and you gotta take a bunch of crap off. so im glad its reachable by pulling the motor forward.

dont really have to take a bunch of stuff off, just move it out of the way

and the gaskets BLOW too!!! i used my orginal gaskets. save your money man and get some good band clamps, reptile has the part number if you need it, and seal it up right. ive heard it still leaks with there kit at zzp. idk about there gaskets tho but the orginal ones work fine.

FelPro exhaust manifold gaskets - $14.99
they work good? or are they the same ones zzp sends you? i might get the regular package and use band clamps. i think my dad has a bunch in his shed from when he did his exhaust. the Y pipe 2.5 inches?

i have a feeling my car's gaskets wont be good. the car it's self has over 200k miles on it. had a different motor put in. motor only has like 80k if that. so if its the 200k gaskets they should be replaced. and dang i forgot about the bolts being short. i think in the review someone said what size. i think ill wait to order them to make sure i get all the info right.

i used the gaskets that came with my headers...otherwise ive used felpros before and they worked just as well.

yea i used the stock gaskets on the car.

so the bolts work fine? just they SHOULD be replaced? and yours sat..... would it be drivable for like 2 weeks with the short bolts?

ok, thanks. i'll order them when i get home later tonight.

just figured i'd say i finally ordered them. got the regular kit, but got the extended 02 bunge. and i also ordered a 180 t-stat since i spent less money not getting the zzp package.

o yea, i had to use the extension for the rear 02 sensor, and then for the catback sensor, the sent some wireing and i had the splice the new wireing in to make it long enough. wasent that hard, if you can splice speaker wire and put it together then you will be fine. just keep your colors correct. the colors arent the same but in other words if you cut a purple wire and use a white wire to extend it. conect that white wire to the other purple wire at the end.