What do you think about these headers?

[94GrandPrixSE]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/97-08-GRAND-PRIX-GTP-3-8L-SUPERCHARGE-STAINLESS-STEEL-HEADER-OXYGEN-SENSOR-BUNG-/380842798813?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories &fits=Model%3AGrand+Prix|Submodel%3AGTP&hash=item5 8abffeedd&vxp=mtr


It looks like pacesetter copy cats and I know they had problems with the crossover sealing right. So my question is has anybody tried these headers? any sealing or alignment issues? Thanks

[Iceman6669]

Pretty sure they are OBX headers... Thats a no go.

[Scottydoggs]

i hate to say it but the welds look better then the new WBS headers lol

[TwiztdWun]

I got these headers on my car. I am not going to say they are the greatest, but, they are not bad. I don't have any sealing issues, but, there are a couple things to keep in mind:

1: You will lose the converter and this causes a pretty noticeable droning sound in the passenger compartment. May not bother you, but, I am turning into a cranky old fart and dislike it.

2: You will need to grind part of the transmission away for the crossover pipe.

3: Where the headers come together for the collector is my biggest gripe. Typical 3 bolt, 3" flange. The have a bolt lined up at the 12 O'clock position. It is a total pain getting a bolt in there good and tight. The O2 sensor and the heat shield make it even harder. It required stepping a 3/8" ratchet down to 1/4" with an adaptor, an extension and a wobble socket. In hind site, you may want to cut the flange, re-clock it and weld it back together for easy of access to all 3 bolts. I am thinking if it was rotated about 45 degrees or a little less in either direction would be fine.

As a plus, the down pipe does not have the humpty hump that some of the brand names do.....its more direct. Lowered cars may like this better than the name brand stuff.

[94GrandPrixSE]

Im cat-less anyways but I know the sound your talking about, its really noticeable when getting on it.

[94GrandPrixSE]

Thanks, sounds like a lot of work but with the price tag its tempting, or I may just go with SD headers since I have no intention to lower. Why would I loose my resonator?

[TwiztdWun]

My apologies. Its not the resonator you lose with this setup, its the converter. I corrected my previous post.