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    I need a little advice and direction where to go from here. I have a stock GTP has aprox 84k on the clock. Currently running AL 606's with Belden wires. I have a lot of competition around here and I need to be able to crush these cumstangs and rice burners.
    I am pretty certain on these mods in the very near future tell me what you think.

    ZZP 3" CAT w/Cat

    ZZP Cold air intake 4" cone

    Overkill Can tune

    MPS (unsure what size)

    AL 105's

    Right now im getting a peak of 5KR and im pushing about 7psi at about 4k RPM I want to be in the high 12's or low 13's in the quarter mile. I'm sure someone is going to tell me headers but I would like to save that for last after the above mods if I still have knock. My main question is will I still have KR? I plan on waiting to pulley swap till I am under 2kr.

    What would you guys do?
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    http://www.grandprixforums.net/safel...0-a-67580.html

    Take a read through this. It should give you all the info needed. And yes, headers are a good place to start. And a way to scan for KR. Don't drop pulley sizes until you have the mods to go with it or you WILL chip a piston and junk the motor.
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    Get rid of that mass amount of kr before you consider dropping pulleys
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    Skip the cat back, its pointless and a waste of money. Get a 3" dp and a front plog at the least if you don't want to run headers. Make your own intake its cheaper and just as effective. With the dp plog Al105s and a tune you should be able to run a 3.5 pulley pretty easy, you might be able to drop to a 3.4 but its hard to tell as every car is different.
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    Ive read that forum probably a dozen times, I can scan for KR like I said i have about 5kr WOT above 4k RPM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Palm View Post
    Get rid of that mass amount of kr before you consider dropping pulleys
    5* of KR on a stock car is average Palm.
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    Really? I guess im lucky with 0 kr lol
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    Yeah I've read of some people stock hitting 6*. Each engine is different, my Silver car before the engine took a dump saw 4* of KR.
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    Is this a 13 second setup? and the reason I felt I should go with the ZZP CIA was because of heat. Isnt it true Pulling cold air in + S/C = more boost? What is the first Mod I should do? I was thinking the CIA or Downpipe?
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    And for canned tunes 3800performance dhp tune is one of the best ive been told by many
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    And the cai does nothing for our cars since the blower on it is a super heater it all becomes the same temp no gain really
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    So as for removing my stock KR downpipe or CAI first?
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    Downpipe will do alot more than a cai. Zzp 3in dp
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    Quote Originally Posted by 94GrandPrixSE View Post
    Is this a 13 second setup? and the reason I felt I should go with the ZZP CIA was because of heat. Isnt it true Pulling cold air in + S/C = more boost? What is the first Mod I should do? I was thinking the CIA or Downpipe?
    You are not going to get into 13s with just a pulley and a cold air intake. Sure you could run a small pulley a custom tune and race gas like Twinv6, but thats not an everyday driver. A 13 second every day driver you would probably need a cam but I could be wrong.
    No a cold air induction on these cars does absolutly dick. http://www.grandprixforums.net/dyno-...ake-33225.html Make your own just search homemade intake or diy intake.
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    all the intake does is allow you to hear the whine
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    Well I guess thats what I was looking for Slick, so Downpipe and PLOG it is. AL 105's sound good?
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    right now zzp is out of plogs. And for the dp since its a l67 you should get a 3 inch dp catted will be about 50 bucks more
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Palm View Post
    all the intake does is allow you to hear the whine
    Ill save myself $250 and DIY it
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    Ill get the DP first and what are the opinions on fender well intakes? same thing?
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    yeah pretty much same thing as a cai possibly a little better
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