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  1. #1 Doesn't make any sense...wtf?! 
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    Gen lll 3.25 pulley 5 to 7 degrees kr. Gen V swap, northstar throttle body, 1.8 yella terra rockers, headers, ngk 55ix, 180 tstat, and exhaust 12 degrees kr at wot. Shouldn't i see less kr?
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    With the same pulley and no change in mods? Sure...it'll double your KR since the GenV is worlds more efficient than the GenIII, you need a 3.4"...otherwise.

    I'm lost.

    You makea noa sensea.

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    More detail please.
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    gen V is more efficient. you should pulley up a size or run an intercooler or cam.
    if you pulley up to a 3.4 on that gen V thatll almost be like running a 3.25 on your gen III...i think.
    needs more flow to run that small of a pulley on a gen V.
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    I switched to a 3.5 pulley today but i'm still seeing about 4 to 6 degrees of kr. If the gen v is more efficient, why am i still seeing kr? I had about 4 to 6 degrees of kr before i did the gen v swap on the 3.5 pulley. I'm thinking mayb i need to go a heat range colder on plugs, delete the cat, or my tune may not be right. The tune is from Intense-Racing
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    Lol dude you don't even wanna look at that tune.. You'd be frightened
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    Let me do a quick break down.

    Gen 3 blower with a 3.4 pulley is like a 3.6 on a Gen V.
    Gen 3 blower with a 3.2 pulley is like a 3.4 on a Gen V.

    Understand now???

    Its a better blower. A smaller pulley size drop does what a larger pulley size drop would do on the Gen 3.

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    Just stick a 2.55 on there and get it over with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XtrmGTP View Post
    If the gen v is more efficient, why am i still seeing kr?
    Efficient, meaning that you can use a larger pulley to achieve the same result as smaller pulley on a GenIII. You have sufficient mods for a GenV on a 3.5. So your tune needs some work.

    03 GTP...Its got pulleys and stuff.
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    did you have it tuned after you did the blower swap?

    and like everyone else said, bigger pulley
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    Now that you are running the north star throttle body did you have your tune adjusted for an LQ4 MAF??
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    I told them about tuning for the lq4, yes. Whether they did it or not is the question.
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    With that many mods you'd be better off getting a custom tune for it.
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    I'm betting it's those iridium plugs. Swap some Autolite 104's in there and watch most of your KR magically disappear.

    edit.. Unless your headers are hitting something causing false KR
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    yeah and how are you tuning this?? are you getting canned tunes set up for these mods or are you dyno tuning or are you street tuning?
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    It's a tune from intense-racing and i told them i had a gen v swap, northstar tb, 1.8 rockers, headers, 180 tstat, colder plugs (i don't know exactly what heat range ngk 55ix's are tho?) Could a clogged cat be causing some of it cuz ya can hear the insides coming apart rattling raspy sound. It's just really erratic kr no consistency
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    hmm that could be your problem. when your that in depth with mods a custom tune is pretty much a necessity for 0* kr.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XtrmGTP View Post
    If the gen v is more efficient, why am i still seeing kr?
    More efficient meaning more boost at the same pulley size. Moar boost = moar kr.


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    Ctracer...i have a tuned pcm for my mods from intense racing, isn't that custom?
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    Custom in car tune you have a canned tune.
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