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    after my rocker install on my 97 grand prix gtp i reassembled everything and it started up then dropped all the rpms. so i talked to reptile and he told me he thinks its crank position sensor because it wouldnt start back up but it sounds like it wants to and it keeps cranking but when i charged the battery thinking low voltage i started it and heard what i think was a backfire noise and smoke came out of the throttle body. so i was thinking okay has to be CPS but then i check for spark and i get spark but it doesnt look very bright like its fading power. symptoms of cps is no spark and not restarting well i have spark, so what could it be? i want to get me car back up and running.

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    1.8 RR's, Speed daddy headers, 180 stat, Open Cone, GBP tune, 3.5 pulley, and ported blower.
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    Check for fuel?
    2001 Regal GS, PLOG, 3" DP, 1.9's/L76 springs. 21* of timing on a 3.4"
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    yeah it actually fowled my spark plugs so i know its getting fuel and the pressure is good too.
    1.8 RR's, Speed daddy headers, 180 stat, Open Cone, GBP tune, 3.5 pulley, and ported blower.
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    Check the ground under the ICM. on the coil bracket.
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    dont have any codes do you?
    2001 Regal GS, PLOG, 3" DP, 1.9's/L76 springs. 21* of timing on a 3.4"
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    that was the first thing i checked. nice and tight.
    1.8 RR's, Speed daddy headers, 180 stat, Open Cone, GBP tune, 3.5 pulley, and ported blower.
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    cant scan for them car wont start, and i only have a scan gauge
    1.8 RR's, Speed daddy headers, 180 stat, Open Cone, GBP tune, 3.5 pulley, and ported blower.
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    **** im dumb...duh i knew that...wasn't thinking.
    2001 Regal GS, PLOG, 3" DP, 1.9's/L76 springs. 21* of timing on a 3.4"
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    lol your fine but yeah any ideas?
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    did you have the icm tested?
    2001 Regal GS, PLOG, 3" DP, 1.9's/L76 springs. 21* of timing on a 3.4"
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    well if its sparking... it seems fine but no if reptile comes up friday then hes bringing his other icm to test it
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    advanced auto tests them...at least mine does.
    2001 Regal GS, PLOG, 3" DP, 1.9's/L76 springs. 21* of timing on a 3.4"
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    mine doesnt autozzone does but there about 20 miles away and my car wont move lol.
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    Try disconencting you battery to reset the computer....probably wont help but its worth a try.

    Honestly though...you probably are lookin at a crank sensor.
    2001 Regal GS, PLOG, 3" DP, 1.9's/L76 springs. 21* of timing on a 3.4"
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    think so? well im kinda of hoping it is because its a relatively cheap fix. but well see. i did have the battery out for about an hr and no luck
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    I do think so...my car stalled a couple times...didn't wanna start sometimes blah blah.....new crank sensor and its ran fine ever since....knock on wood.
    2001 Regal GS, PLOG, 3" DP, 1.9's/L76 springs. 21* of timing on a 3.4"
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    lol well thats what im thinking because my aeroforce gauge said i was running -25* of timing at idle! so im thinking it has to be a bad sensor
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    holy shizit..would the car even run at -25*?
    2001 Regal GS, PLOG, 3" DP, 1.9's/L76 springs. 21* of timing on a 3.4"
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    fuxk hardly i was so horried that the timing chain skipped a tooth or something idk what to think>? but at WOT at the top of 2nd gear was -4* so im thinking bad sensor ftl?
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    my bet is bad sensor if your aerforce was reading that far off since it goes of the crank sensor
    2001 Regal GS, PLOG, 3" DP, 1.9's/L76 springs. 21* of timing on a 3.4"
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