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  1. #1 AL 104"s 
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    well i just did a 3.6 pulley setup on my 05 gtp. and i ran autolite 104's well they are 2 weeks old ant 4 of them took a **** today. 3 of them the while insulator part spins. and another one cracked down the middle. these are probably the worst cheapest made plugs ive ever seen. im gettin NGK.
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    Are you really that sure that a trusted brand of spark plugs has a 50% failure rate after a few weeks. I’ll bet the hundreds of people on this forum that use AL plugs will run out and change now that you have discovered this problem!

    Wake up and smell the motor oil. Either you installed them to tight, and/or you have detonation.

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    Cracked down the middle is a sign of detonation unless your referring to the part the boot goes onto. If that parts cracked it was probably install error.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cerick08GP View Post
    Are you really that sure that a trusted brand of spark plugs has a 50% failure rate after a few weeks. I’ll bet the hundreds of people on this forum that use AL plugs will run out and change now that you have discovered this problem!

    Wake up and smell the motor oil. Either you installed them to tight, and/or you have detonation.


    X2 I've been running them for quite some time and NEVER had a issue with them breaking. Would also help if put antiseize of them and go ahead and fork out the money for NGK i'll stick with AL
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    Have you scanned for knock? Oh boyz
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    I've been running ALs for a couple of years as well and haven't had any problems. You have supporting mods?
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    This thread is awesome.

    People at work thought I was crazy putting 104's in my GP.

    To them, nothing but delco can go in a GM.
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    yes i ahve supporting mods. i have 1* of knock. we couldn't get it any better. and NGK was the exact same price at autozone.
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    My 04 hated NGK's. Never ran quite right. I had TR6's in there. Switched to Al104's and much better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wlmrt6 View Post
    yes i ahve supporting mods. i have 1* of knock. we couldn't get it any better. and NGK was the exact same price at autozone.
    Ummm, 0* is better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wlmrt6 View Post
    yes i ahve supporting mods. i have 1* of knock. we couldn't get it any better. and NGK was the exact same price at autozone.
    Which ones? Since you have some knock you need to go back up in pulley size.
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    Plugs tell the tail of knock, they are more accurate then sensors
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    i have tr6's and they have run awesome. took them on a nice long trip today.
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    Way to go using a plug way too cold for your setup.

    Just sayin.
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    When people ASK for colder plugs I generally ask why... And then its all "so and so said so"
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    they are the same heat range as 104's.
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    I'm also a bit confused about it:

    AL606 stock heat range
    AL605 1 range colder
    AL104 2 range colder

    TR55 1 range colder
    TR6 2 range colder

    Is that right? I took it from the safely modding sticky, but not really sure about the TRs
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    yea thats what i went by too. i think alot of ppl have and it is proly misleading
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    I run TR6s (gapped to .055) as well..... are they too cold for my 3.4 setup?
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    I find the tr6's to be too cold for my top swap.

    Going to try 104's next.
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