Thread: First Modification

Originally Posted by bluegtp91

'97's and some '98's had the double bent stock air box...if he would have upgraded to a '99+ stock box and gutted it for free...it would have been way better.

ah, thank you

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what is your peoples need for low intake temperatures? you dont need them! i ran an open cone on my car from the beginning. i guarantee under any conditions that an open cone will make more power than any other intake.

Originally Posted by Bio248

...ahhhhh!

what is your peoples need for low intake temperatures? you dont need them! i ran an open cone on my car from the beginning. i guarantee under any conditions that an open cone will make more power than any other intake.

cars are faster with a colder intake charge. its proven. race your car in 90 degree weather vs 40 degree weather and tell me its not slower in the heat.

no crap, but how are you going to produce lower than ambient temperatures? it just doesnt happen. therefore, my 120* IAT still produce as much power as someone running completely ambient at 80* because of the timing tables and how much the blower negates the intake temperature just by heating it up anyway. was my car a monster on a 3.4 pulley in winter? yes. did it feel more like a dog when it was 80* outside in summer? yes. you cannot control weather, so do yourself a favor and make an intake that FLOWS well. the intake temperatures just do not matter that much. i will argue this up and down for weeks.

Originally Posted by hourang

wouldnt it get too much heat soak with the exhaust crossover right there? or is this only advised if you have headers with ceramic coating?

coating or not...an open cone is better than that thing he calls an intake.

IMO...I would never go open cone until I hit the 3.2"ish pulley area...but thats me...plus at the rate he is going...an open cone is a sh!t ton better than V1 or V2

Originally Posted by Bio248

no crap, but how are you going to produce lower than ambient temperatures? it just doesnt happen. therefore, my 120* IAT still produce as much power as someone running completely ambient at 80* because of the timing tables and how much the blower negates the intake temperature just by heating it up anyway. was my car a monster on a 3.4 pulley in winter? yes. did it feel more like a dog when it was 80* outside in summer? yes. you cannot control weather, so do yourself a favor and make an intake that FLOWS well. the intake temperatures just do not matter that much. i will argue this up and down for weeks.

so is there a magic number that the air can only be heated to a certain degrees or something? 40degrees hotter is a lot less dense air, having the cooler air would produce more power and let you run more timing with less knock. not trying to argue here just trying to understand it.

once moving, the open cone gets close to ambandent temps. its only when your stoped for a bit that they start to rise. once back up to speed there back down to ambandent.

Originally Posted by blowfishRus6

once moving, the open cone gets close to ambandent temps. its only when your stoped for a bit that they start to rise. once back up to speed there back down to ambandent.

hrm that makes sense, tho for the first 60ft im sure it affects it, but with traction issues you may want it like that anyway lol.

then that more flow for the backend might be good too

get a quicker refresh rate IAT sensor and you wont have that problem when youre taking off from the line because it will cool down faster.

Originally Posted by Bio248

get a quicker refresh rate IAT sensor and you wont have that problem when youre taking off from the line because it will cool down faster.

really now where do you get one of those?

contact brian (reptile). he has been hand making them.

Originally Posted by Bio248

contact brian (reptile). he has been hand making them.

good to know. i wonder if the pcm box will still fit this way. mine has the maf in the tbody.

you will simple replace the sensor in the tb. nothing will change set up wise

The point it is your supposed to read the entire thing...not just how to drop pulley's unsafely and blow up your car.

thats alot better

thats much better. i would leave it like that now.

Originally Posted by blowfishRus6

you will simple replace the sensor in the tb. nothing will change set up wise

no i mean by putting the filter directly on the tbody, maybe the pcm/intake box can stay, the filter i have is only like 5-6in long.

Originally Posted by hourang

no i mean by putting the filter directly on the tbody, maybe the pcm/intake box can stay, the filter i have is only like 5-6in long.

just keep the IAT sensor near the cone filter and youll be fine.