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    Update: 08/31/09 Small Additions and spelling corrections, goal list, injectors, fuel pump.

    This is my fantasy build. I am convinced that one day i will construct this car.

    Rules: There are some aspects of the build that I am decided upon. They are marked with an asterisk *. So basically if you try and sway my mind you will be beating a dead horse. Discussion on these things is acceptable though. I am posting this because I want POSITIVE feedback and input; also I want to put what’s in my head down on paper. Comments hints, tips and more options are greatly appreciated. Price is not an object for the most part, I man I don’t want to spend 20k on a custom mink interior or something weird. This is a work in progress, the first few posts will be updated and dated constantly with new information.

    Goals:
    Goal 1: I want the car to be able to run a high 12 second ¼.
    Goal 2: Decent MPG i am shooting for is 16/26 at the LEAST. I would like more and believe i can get 18/28.
    Goal 3: I want to maintain the "originality" of the car. The engine base, S/C induction, transmission.

    Note: I am not expecting people to answer all of the questions i have (their are allot). I pose them as a note for myself as well as looking for input. If you see something you like or dislike let me know!

    Note2: When i mention ZZP i am only referring where i have seen the item. The only item i want from ZZP for sure are their stainless headers. I will eventually get around to placing "cheapest price" links to all of these items.

    Key:
    * = An aspect i am decided on
    + = Still looking for more info.
    - = Not finalized.


    The Car:
    Basics:

    -Platform : 1999 Grand Prix GTP 2 Door.
    *Induction: S/C
    +Engine: 3800 modified crate engine. Stll looking into options. (ZZP, Triple Edge).

    Under the Hood:
    Supercharger
    -Supercharger: Gen V. Would a Wipple be better? Iv only heard of them.
    -Pulley size: 3.0. ZZP MPS. Maybe i can go smaller.
    *Blower:Port & polished, Silencers filled.
    *Upgraded coupler

    Engine
    +Block: No idea. All I hear is I should have a higher compression ratio (9.4). I have seen a few crate engines but I don’t know which Is best.
    -Heads: Aluminum heads from ZZP. What do ported heads do? Supporting mods needed? Reduce mpg?
    -LIM: Inlet ported. Do outlet ports give any gains?
    -Pistons: JE forged Pistons. (zzp)
    -Connecting rods: Forged. Where can I get these?
    -Radiator: Oversized aluminum radiator (ZZP)
    +Cam: Not sure. If they decrease MPG significantly I wont get one.
    -Rockers: Nor sure, can you do a cam and rockers?
    -Water pump: Upgraded water pump. Does this really do much?
    -Pushrods: ?
    -Thermostat: 180*
    -Springs

    Transmission:
    -Rebuild myself or use Triple Edge Performance.
    +Gear Ratio: 3.29
    -Input shaft: Forged/ Upgraded.
    -Output shaft: Forged/ Upgraded.
    +Differential: GM Racing Torsen differential. ZZP sells this. Not familier with real benefits
    +Torque Converter: Pro torque. Not sure what stall yet.
    -Transmission pan with drain plug.

    Axles: Stage 2 ZZP. Are their better ones?

    Electrical:
    -Bigger Plug Wires (yellow or red)
    -Spark Plugs: Autolite 104’s, .55 gap. coppers ware out quicker, is there a longer lasting option? Are Autolite XP iridium Spark Plugs better?
    -Ignition coils: MSD red.
    -Alt Rewire

    Intercooling
    -Intercooler Core: Stage 3 Phenolic from ZZP
    +IC Heat exchange: Short stack? Oversized?
    -IC reservoir: Nut sure if one is needed or where I get one.
    -IC Pump:
    -IC pump controller, unnecessary but this is a fantasy build.

    Fuel Delivery:
    -Fuel Log: ZZP Billet Fuel Log (Chrome).
    +Injectors: Bigger ones, investigating what size is best.
    -Fuel Pump: Upgraded


    -Upgraded/Shorter Dogbones??

    -Throttle Body: Northstar (75MM). Or An LS1 TB. Not sure where to get the later.
    -Air Filtration: AmsOil Cone filter. (should it be right on the TB if i am going to be running an IC.)


    Exhaust:
    *Headers: ZZP stainless steel headers.
    -Downpipe: Stainless cat’ed downpipe. ZZP
    -Catback: Borla.


    Suspension:
    -Control arms: From Red from ZZP.
    -Struts: KYG ABX Adjustable from ZZP.
    -Strut tower brace: Red from ZZP
    -Sway bar: GMPP front and rear sway bar. From ZZP

    Breaks
    -Breaks: Baer Eradispeed Big Brake Upgrade. I can’t find other upgrade options.
    -Brake lines: Stainless
    -5th Break Line: Stainless

    Exterior

    *Color: Base color will be back, secondary colors will be red and yellow. I will have a custom paint job, the paint job will be designed after a paintball jersey I have. It will not be an exact match but the idea will be the same. I will post the picture of the jersey later.
    -Body: SD hood, front air dam, wing. Does anyone know of an aftermarket rear bumper?
    -Wheels: Elbrus 104 or Nascar Sonoma. Not sure on size, at what size does performance decrease? I always thought it was bigger than 17.
    -Tires: Yokohama ADVAN S4 It.
    -Exhaust tips: SLP GTX Stainless. I know there almost impossible to find but I will try, or try to find something similar.
    -Headlights and taillights: Stock, maybe I will upgrade to HID’s or some brighter lights. Not sure yet, I don’t want the problems I hear about surrounding HID’s.
    *Grille inserts: Stock.*Exterior lighting (Underglow etc): None.
    *Door Trim: None.
    -Overlays: I will have the yellow GTP badge, “Pontiac” on the rear bumper and Pontiac symbol on the front bumper. Door sill overlay.
    -Tints: Not sure yet.
    -MISC: Any other exterior things I am forgetting that can be upgraded in this category?


    Interior
    -Black base. Want a custom interior but trying to make price realistic.
    *Floor mats: Black. GTP embroidered in Yellow for the front back and trunk.
    -Custom seats: Black seats with yellow centers. Yellow piping and yellow grand prix block lettering. The ones at the link are not my final choice. I want to explore other options if I can find them.
    -Noise reduction: Dynamat will be used throughout the vehicle.
    -Steering wheel cover: Black and yellow. (unless I get a different wheel)
    -Heated seats: If the custom ones do not offer this as an option I will have to install them.
    -Plastics: I want to see if I can get the dash and the plastic around the shifter in carbon fiber. PFYC used to have both but now they have neither.
    -Steering wheel: Looking into different steering wheels. I can hook up mods to the wheel.
    -Steering wheel buttons: The upgraded brighter ones by ZZP. (if I keep the stock steering wheel.)
    -Stereo: Just a new deck, no subs. Still looking into options.
    -Gauge mount: A pillar gauge mount (3 gauges). Looking into mounting more gauges, not sure where I can.
    -Gauges: AeroForce Scan gauge, Wide band O3, Oil Press. Other 3 I am considering if I have room: Trans temp, boost, fuel press. (yes I want it to look like an airplane inside lol) Not sure what name brand to use yet. I do want red light and preferably a black back.
    -Buttons, switches: I have seen some cars with them but have no idea which are useful or not. I think the 10 second Intense GTP has like 4 buttons I have no idea what they do. I want some any suggestions? Is a happy knob useful? ( I love buttons n switches lol.)
    -Lighting: I want to upgrade all of the interior lights to LED’s. Not sure if I want to go red or yellow yet.
    -Shifter: Stock
    -Pedals: Stock
    -HUD: Yes plz
    -Sun roof: Yes plz

    Misc:
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    Last edited by DnaProdigy; 09-17-2009 at 10:38 PM.
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