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  1. #1 How to Tune the MPG estimate in the DIC. 
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    I have heard that the dic uses the IFR table, so since mine was off 5-10% I added 5% to the ifr table and then fixed my maf table for fuel trims. My dic showed 26.7mpg I got 23mpg. It is not any closer. How do you tune the dic estimate to be right?

    (ps I search clubgp and pt forums and didn't find anything to help, at club gp someone asked and they just got reffered to pt forums, I went there, searched, nothing on the term "dic".)

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    Can a mod change the heading to quesiton please?
    Done

    Good question BTW, I've wondered this myself.
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    I recall Jerry or someone addressing this issue and I remember it being said that they had tuned it to where it was maybe a tenth or two off at worst. Now ask me where I saw that or where it was posted and I'll just stare off into yonder. I know that isnt much help other than to reinforce that it can be done.

    I thought Jerrys Tuning Notebook dealt with this, might want to check there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SyntheticShield View Post
    I recall Jerry or someone addressing this issue and I remember it being said that they had tuned it to where it was maybe a tenth or two off at worst. Now ask me where I saw that or where it was posted and I'll just stare off into yonder. I know that isnt much help other than to reinforce that it can be done.

    I thought Jerrys Tuning Notebook dealt with this, might want to check there.

    yep, it's in the wiki


    - Make sure your IFR is the correct one for your car. This does 2 things. First is that
    your DIC indicated mileage indicated will be pretty accurate, and second is that it
    will be better able to meter the fuel out more accurately. Stock injectors = stock IFR.
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    The fuel trims have to be as close to 0 as possible as if the pcm has to add or remove fuel in the fuel trims the result will show up on the DIC. Example.... if you added 42lb/hr injectors to a stock pcm tune then your DIC generally will tell you you are getting 36-39mpg on the highway. If you look at the LTFT while driving as it says this it will probably be in the -16.4 to -22 range so the pcm is pulling out a lot of fuel from its base fueling to compensate for the injectors, but unfortunately throws off everything when the trims are off that much. All the cars I have tuned with good fuel trims have pretty accurated DIC mpg readings and I found it best to reset the average right after a fillup at the gas station and AFTER you leave and reset it immediately while rolling down the road so it doesnt start at 0 from sitting still and have to work its way back up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trannyman95 View Post
    The fuel trims have to be as close to 0 as possible as if the pcm has to add or remove fuel in the fuel trims the result will show up on the DIC. Example.... if you added 42lb/hr injectors to a stock pcm tune then your DIC generally will tell you you are getting 36-39mpg on the highway. If you look at the LTFT while driving as it says this it will probably be in the -16.4 to -22 range so the pcm is pulling out a lot of fuel from its base fueling to compensate for the injectors, but unfortunately throws off everything when the trims are off that much. All the cars I have tuned with good fuel trims have pretty accurated DIC mpg readings and I found it best to reset the average right after a fillup at the gas station and AFTER you leave and reset it immediately while rolling down the road so it doesnt start at 0 from sitting still and have to work its way back up.
    Dave tuned mine and iirc actual mpg is within 1 mpg of the DIC reading.
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    Great stuff right there. This needs to be stickied or put in the How To Section.
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    Or added to the how to tune wiki...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zef_66 View Post
    Or added to the how to tune wiki...
    That too.
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