Thread: Engine tips and tricks while motor is out

I am getting a used L67 engine with 97k on it and will be installing it in my 02 very soon. Before I do it I want to address all issues with gaskets and seals while engine is out of the car.

My service manual says I need a special tool to install the rear main seal. Are there any tips or tricks on this install? Do you really need the special seal installer? Any alternative tools that can be used? Is the rear main even worth changing?

I have already purchased the following items...
felpro lower conversion gasket set, (oil pan, rear main, front/rear cover gaskets)
ac delco aluminum intake gaskets
dorman aluminum elbows
blower gaskets
egr gaskets
valve cover gaskets
valve seals
exhaust gaskets
water pump
engine and trans lower mounts

Would you replace valve seals? Please advise on anything that you would replace or freshen up while the motor was out. I also have a transgo kit with transmission currently out. Should I install the rest of the parts to it?

I got the hydraulic engine mount and a solid trans. Why the solids?

I need to get this thing running ASAP as its my work commuter car. I can rebuild my old heads as time and money allows and swap over later if needed.

My main concern was whether I should change the rear main seal, front seal and can I use a normal seal driver to do it instead of the gm tool. Also wondering if its worth installing the rest of my transmission kit.

I watched a few youtubes and found some forums on the trans kit and everything suggested do what you can with trans in the car. But the kit came with a few other parts that I was curious about. Here it is...https://www.amazon.com/Wellington-Pa.../dp/B008XO9ATC

I will definitely replace the cover seals. The rear main is to big for my seal driver set. The gm service manual shows a tool that draws the seal in with a bolt. I was hoping somebody could elaborate on whether a driver of the correct size would work instead of the special gm tool. Worst case I could take the cover off and take it to the dealer and have them put it in. In the mean time I might bite the bullet and buy the tool or a driver set that fits. Rear main seal bore is about 3 7/8" od and roughly a 3" id seal.

You know what, you're right. The trans-go kit does come with hardware for 3rd and 4th gear, now that I think about it. Been a year+ since I did mine. I didn't install that extra stuff, most dont.

I am going to have engine out soon to get a new TEP tranny installed. I am on GM parts direct and i see the front and rear main seals, but i dont see front/rear cover seals. Does anyone have a link to them? I would like to stick with ac delco if possible.
Thanks

thanks for looking rickisrad. I just looked on gm partsdirect again, amazing what you find when you aren't doing it at midnight, and found these.

http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/pontiac...rear-main-seal

http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/pontiac...ont-cover-seal

http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/pontiac...t-cover-gasket

looking at the diagram of the motor in these links, it looks like pt 34 is the front seal, but it is not listed in the listing of parts by number?
I can't find the rear cover seal, or is it a gasket like the pt 12587003 is for the front above. Do the covers have seals or gaskets? are these the right ones?
Thanks

As far as the rear main, I have access to a machine shop at work and found a scrap piece of tubing and had it machined to the OD needed. I scribed the original seal depth and removed/installed with cover off. If I had done the ID of the tube correctly I could have used a piece of plate and the proper sized bolts to install the seal while cover is on by threading bolts into crank and pulling installer in with bolts.

Originally Posted by rickisrad

https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...haft+seal,5604
http://m.ebay.com/itm/GM-OEM-Camshaf...%257Ciid%253A3
https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...asket+set,5484
https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...l+gasket,11891

these should be what you are looking for. I would see if any of the new style metal gaskets are available.

Thanks for these. Are all of these pretty much similar in quality to ac delco? Should I not be too hung up on ac delco stuff?

I just finished getting my engine back in last weekend. Been dealing with some minor issues this week. I replaced all the gaskets and seals with felpro stuff except for head gaskets and valve stem seals. New ac delco water pump. I can't sat I have any tips or tricks after doing it all. I painted the block and cleared my aluminum stuff after cleaning everything for days. Swapped sensors over from original motor knowing they worked fine. Make sure you have a good razor blade scraper with sharp blades for removing gaskets and a shop vac to keep stuff out of places the old gasket material doesn't belong.

I am still dealing with trying to get the lower coolant elbow sealed up it was a constant drip, now a light drip after shutting off. I removed the tensioner and had missed cleaning some coolant chalk out of the holes so I used some sand paper in them with some success.

I was also getting code p0300 random misfire. GM service manual says if you have swapped engines pcms or crank sensors etc to do a crank relearn procedure. I ended up doing that using an hp tuner scanner and fixed the random misfire issue. So far runs good. Had to replace a few squeaky idler pulleys too. I never did the extra transmission stuff. I did replace both lower control arms as one side had a front bushing falling out. Installed 12" rotors and impala caliper brackets too. Had to buy new abs wire fasteners for new control arms as old ones broke off, although zipties would work I like to use the correct stuff. I also replaced the sc coupler and oil. Cleaned MAF and throttle body.