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  1. #1 Symptoms of bad needle bearings? 
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    Are there any specific symptoms of the needle bearings going out in the m90? I'm getting a lot of noise and although I'm sure the coupler is worn this noise is more excessive whining rather then rocks tumbling.

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    A whining supercharger .... hmmmmm that's very strange indeed
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    Wait it's supposed to whine??


    No seriously it's ridiculously loud even at idle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suitercrew View Post
    Wait it's supposed to whine??


    No seriously it's ridiculously loud even at idle.

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    The only way to really narrow it down is to replace the coupler. When mine went out it was covered by the sound of my bad coupler.
    Check your oil level in the housing too. Excessive noise can be a large array of things, bad tensioner, bad pulley bearing, bad needle bearing, vacuum leak, etc...


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    I'd rather just go buy another M90 at a junkyard and throw it on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blueguy View Post
    I'd rather just go buy another M90 at a junkyard and throw it on.
    Good point! I neglected to mention that's it's a pain in the a** to pull the needle bearing out...


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    Well I used a stethoscope thing and found it's actually the bearing closest to the pulley so I guess I'm looking for a snout rebuild. I'm not gonna go pay 150$ for a supercharger that's used and could have a bearing fail after 100 miles or possibly already have a bad bearing

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    Quote Originally Posted by suitercrew View Post
    Well I used a stethoscope thing and found it's actually the bearing closest to the pulley so I guess I'm looking for a snout rebuild. I'm not gonna go pay 150$ for a supercharger that's used and could have a bearing fail after 100 miles or possibly already have a bad bearing

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    Ya I'll probably just get one off eBay it's 215 with a 60$ refund when you return the core. And it comes with oil and coupler.

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    Does a bad bearing effect anything though besides being extremely annoying and eventually grenading?

    Like would it cause low boost or high outlet temps. Etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by suitercrew View Post
    Ya I'll probably just get one off eBay it's 215 with a 60$ refund when you return the core. And it comes with oil and coupler.

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    Are you stock pulley or press on hub?


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    Mps hub

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    You can get a gen V for 215...
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    Where? Although I'd still need an adaptor plate 60$ and honestly I don't get how a gen 5 is even an upgrade unless your running a really small pulley. Like if it's more efficient and you make the same power on a 3.6 as you would a 3.4 on a gen 3 but you can still only run the 3.6 on the gen 5 with no kr then where exactly a are the gains?

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    The efficiency is the gain. Less heat, more boost, more powah...and errrrybody wants more powah.
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    Ya but if your running a 3.4 on a gen 3 you can only run a 3.6 on a gen 5 so if you have to run a smaller pulley then there's no gain

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    Smaller pulley doesn't mean more power if mods won't support it. Because it's more efficient of a supercharger you need to make the rest of the air flow more efficient, i.e. exhaust work or you'll be getting some knock.
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    I know that's what I'm saying if a gen 5 puts out the same boost on a 3.6 that a gen 3 puts out on a 3.4 it doesn't matter your not gaining an hp gain because you can only handle so much boost depending on your mods. At best I see how you could gain 5 maybe 10hp by its running cooler but besides that I don't see how your gaining any power

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    if your putting the same volume of air into the engine at less psi of physical boost and lower temps then you are actually stressing the engine less
    a larger volume of air at lower temps will make more power than the same volume of air at a high temp and you will be able to put more timing in the engine
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