Thread: Couple questions on headers

You may or may not have to pound the firewall to make the O2 fit. And yes, sometimes the crossover pipe will not line up. You will need to bend it and loosen everything and get it close as possible and force it togther. TOG's are so expensive just stick with the SD setup.

And I mean really, are you gonna spend the same amount of money on a single header than for a whole setup? And TOG's look like something I could make...

Originally Posted by SubwayGuy

And I mean really, are you gonna spend the same amount of money on a single header than for a whole setup? And TOG's look like something I could make...

Thanks for that. It's a huge help, and I appreciate it. I was wondering how much the extra cost went toward quality and fitment vs "the first to put a 3800 into the 11's."

I don't see much difference in material. Any other input would be helpful.

I had to fight my crossover with the SDs. The down pipe kinda sucks and looks weird hanging down. I however have not had any issues with the flex but I do have another sitting here waiting to be tigged on when it does go. I had no issues with the 02 sensor hitting.

I've had no issues with leaks or anything in almost 2 years with my sd's. For the price, they have to be the best headers I've ever had on a car.

Oh and since you have an 05, you won't be able to go that low on pulley size even with the yt rockers. You would be lucky to get knock free with a good tune on a 3.6 or 3.5 at the lowest with headers. Add the yt and you might get to a 3.4 knock free.

SD s***. They are cheaper up front but they cost more blood sweat time and money eventually.

I hate on ZZP but I run there headers.

I had slp and I've had togs.

Slp are slip fit, sd's are a knock off sorta. I bought them used and had some exhaust leaks on the crossover nut eventually got it sealed up.

Got a great deal on some used togs and I could never get the donut gasket to seal on the crossover and just ran with leaks.

Both preformed fine, I change a lot of other stuff when I went to togs so I couldn't tell you a difference in power.

If I got headers it will be slp's if I can find them otherwise I'd get sd's and have the downpipe and flex fixed right away so I wouldn't have to worry about it in a month. Togs aren't needed for the price you for what you want to do. I ran slp with a top swap, 1.9s, 3.2, and intercooler and no issues


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Ya and you need to intercool if you want to run a 3.2.


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http://speed-daddy.com/stainless-ss-...impala-3-8l-v6 looks like they did away with the goose neck a per this sd link. hard to tell with the pics tho.


top left part/pipe in the bag is the goose neck in the down pipe.




you can get a new dual wall flex for 20, another V band camp for 20 off ebay, a high flow cat off ebay for 50 shipped. cut the old flex off, cut its 1/2 of its band clamp off the old flex, then add the new band clamp and the 1/2 you cut off the old flex to the new flex, now you can just un clamp the flex down the road if it needs to be replaced.

the goose neck is not really in the way of hitting the ground, i used a 6 inch flex and it lifted it up some. before i changed the flex out it only hit one time and i went and hit the tallest speed bump i could find and went over it dead straight, it tapped the bump. if i went over it at a angle nothing touched.

im on a 3.2 ic top swap set up kr free, with tuning of course. and still got the goose neck in my headers. its not hurting anything in my book.

Try to find a local vocational school and see if the class can weld the pipe for, typically they are cheaper. Probably won't be the prettiest weld but it will work.

vocational school should be free as long as you supply all parts needed. teacher instructs them the whole time.

dont expect same day service, it may take a few days till they can get to it.