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02-22-2015
How much power will be made on an L36 with fully ported L67 heads, a better cam, and a combo nitrous methanol injection setup.
I was thinking 250 at the wheels with the heads and cam, do you guys think that is a reasonable estimate?
I read if you inject methanol with nitrous it decreases the stress that nitrous puts on everything, so I would probably try for a 150 shot of nitrous with the methanol.
02-22-2015
It won't ever make 250 on just the motor...
02-22-2015
heads and cam wont make 250?
02-23-2015
L67 heads are lower compression = less power. Then the cam will help a bit but not to 250, especially with L67 heads.
02-23-2015
The L67's dished pistons also reduce compression, it's a combo of the two fyi.
02-23-2015
Right. He's asking about a l36 block though. Not a good setup really unless he's going boosted
02-23-2015
didnt even zzp's 4.1 stroker only make like 240 on the motor?
02-23-2015
I'm not sure how much the 4.1 stroker made, but I've kind of given up on boosting an L36. One idea I did have was to swap a set of L67 heads onto the F body camaro L36 and then do a dual nitrous water/methanol injection setup.
in my searching, I found an australian L36 setup that had been top swapped and was using an air to air intercooler, I thought that was pretty interesting.
02-23-2015
all of those ideas would be way more finicky then a turbo setup and probably net less power. the 3800 just doesnt breath very well. certainly not well enough to warrant any N/A setup in my mind.
air to air intercooler on a supercharged car is just stupid. thats like you trying to run a marathon breathing through a straw.
02-24-2015
take a look at the piping of the intercooler, does it really look restrictive?
http://www.fullthrottlev6.com/forums...67-intercooler
02-24-2015
that is certainly a better way to do it then what i was imagining i.e. a cone filter on one side of an intercooler core and a pipe up the supercharger. with the m90 being a positive displacement blower having to pressureize all that extra volume is gonna kinda defeat the only benefit of the supercharger i would think. the guy claims no lag but im still skeptical. its an interesting concept.
the one guy only made 310 horse on a 2.55 pulley. hell for that kind of power you could just stick an xpz cam in with some headers and some mild heads (like clean a set up) and make more power. seriously no reason to drive the m90 that hard.
02-24-2015
I was thinking the same thing about 310 horse and a 2.55 pulley. an xpz cam with ported heads would put down probably 100 more hp. I will have to research how effective an air to air intercooler actually is for supercharged applications.
I would be awfully disappointed if my 2.8 pulley car made less than 300 hp at the wheels
02-24-2015
a buddy of mine had an xpz setup on a 3.0, no intercooler, had headers and it made 330 ish.
02-24-2015
I think some of the top xpz cam builds made like 385.
I think installing an air to air intercooler for a supercharger would be really simple. just mount the heat exchanger and run the ducting.
02-24-2015
intercooled on a 2.6 i would believe that. zzp's test car was like 420 ish.Originally Posted by SgtMarshal
looks like you are at minimum looking at egr delete, belt routing issues. PS pump clearance issues. etc.
02-24-2015
That a2a doesn't work well. You would either need to relocate the maf to right before the lim, or hack the PCM so you can run in speed density.
02-24-2015
good point! probably add an external BOV too as im sure the internal BBV would be lacking at best
02-24-2015
Possibly. It's just a sucky setup.
Just turbo the car and be done with it.
02-24-2015
i believe that is now the 4-5 time that has been said in this thread.
02-24-2015
no pun intended?
the maf could go right in front of the throttle body.
Why wouldn't the BBV work?
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