L36 Build

**l67ss** · 04-14-2014

Anyway im on ur side on hopping up ur l36, especially since ur gonna have it out anyway. Heres wht id get if i had to hide it, hv3(which u hav), p log etc(u also have), l67 tb, 1.9 rockers, l67 coils, and gasket match heads and intake

**nos4blood70** · 04-14-2014

Don't hop up the L36. Even with a cam you won't be faster than an L67. And an L67 is slow these days. Don't waste your money.

All my mods and porting and my car is slow as ****.

**matt5112** · 04-14-2014

Half the point of a cam on a N/A car is just to make it sound nasty.

The GT2 is tiny as well.

I'd suggest a budget build.

Trim your runners yourself, run an L26 UIM, port your heads yourself, port match the LIM, and just drive it.

Total investment would be low, but it'd be reliable as you'd eliminate the plastic UIM and LIM gasket.

**TimMcCallum** · 04-14-2014

The gt1 can be ran stock. But can the gt2?

**TimMcCallum** · 04-14-2014

I have the hv3 getting plog got a 2.5dp gt1 or gt2?

**matt5112** · 04-14-2014

Originally Posted by TimMcCallum

The gt1 can be ran stock. But can the gt2?

Haven't the faintest clue what that means.

Originally Posted by TimMcCallum

I have the hv3 getting plog got a 2.5dp gt1 or gt2?

What do you want from the car? A sorta misfire sorta lope sound or a hearty lope?

Lope: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv8qAXlLrIw
Epic misfire: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh0NS8FWCr8

Either way, as someone else mentioned, even if you don't know cars, you'll know something is different, and you might "get in trouble" anyways.

**TimMcCallum** · 04-14-2014

I want the deep hearty sound. That open header car with some flowmaster 40s would sound so mean

**TimMcCallum** · 04-14-2014

What needs to be done to run the gt2?

**matt5112** · 04-14-2014

Some springs that aren't stock.

But so would a GT1.

Go look at ZZPs page. The lobes they chose, LSA and advance are all part of the part number. They also list out the lobe lift, duration etc.

They both have the same lift, but the GT2 has a bit more duration, lower LSA and no advance.

**TimMcCallum** · 04-14-2014

I want the gt2. It says it can be ran on all stock stuff. But should play it safe with the gt1

**Slick2500** · 04-14-2014

I wouldn't run stock valve train with a cam.

**matt5112** · 04-14-2014

If you spin your engine out with a cam, on stock springs with a couple hundred thousand miles on 'em, you're asking for trouble.

**TimMcCallum** · 04-14-2014

Do what

**Slick2500** · 04-14-2014

Basically what he is saying is that over time the stock springs wear out when using a cam, any cam. You have to remember not to believe ZZPs propaganda. Just get some 90# springs they are cheep and should hold up pretty good with a small cam like the gt1

**matt5112** · 04-14-2014

That stuff was written when the cars were new. Now they're very old, broken and worn out.

**TimMcCallum** · 04-14-2014

So 90# springs and thats i?

**matt5112** · 04-14-2014

Not that this hasn't been covered a thousand times:

Cam basics: Change the valve seals, valve cover gaskets, valve cover grommets, LIM gasket, UIM gasket, inspect UIM for failure and replace if damaged, front timing cover gasket. Also good time to RTV up your pan gasket, check/change the lower engine/trans mount. Also check the water pump for signs of seepage and turn by hand to feel for bearing issues.

All of the aftermarket springs are LSx springs and thus need LSx style retainers.

Always put a new timing chain and damper on( unless you're going double roller). If you go double roller, make sure the crank gear actually matches the crank gear from your engine. All of the timing sets are sourced from Australia where they have different crank gears, thus the kits don't fit the North American engines properly.