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    Hi, new here as a registered member, but been reading for a long time. I have a 2000 GT with a naturally aspirated 3800 Series II. Recently changed head gaskets, LIM, and UIM gaskets along with a new UIM. Heads were milled. TB cleaned spotless as was LIM. Everything is reassembled, runs well when cold (although it does have a slight surge even when cold), but as soon as engine gets to normal operating temp (190ish - replaced thermostat too), engine stumbles, surges, and ultimately stalls. Replaced the CPS a couple of months ago, so I doubt that this is the issue. MAF connected/disconnected makes no difference. Replaced IAC (because it came apart while I was testing it - pintle shot right out of it), but no difference. EGR seems to work fine, I took it off and the "button" on it moves freely both in opening and closing directions. No vacuum leaks that I can find. Took the car on the road, has a ton of power again, but when I let off the throttle even at highway speeds, the RPM fluctuates between 1000-1500, and when I slow to stop at a light, or turn, the engine dies. I'm at a total loss and would appreciate any help.

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    Oh - and there are no codes set, and there are no codes pending.
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    Check the coils and ICM.
    -Carl
    "Penelope" - 145k Miles 2003 Bonneville SLE


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    How do you check the ICM? I'll try to check the coil packs tomorrow -
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    Quote Originally Posted by def88 View Post
    How do you check the ICM? I'll try to check the coil packs tomorrow -
    Part 1 -GM 3.8L Ignition Module Test and Crank Sensor Test (3X, 18X) came across this,some good trouble shooting info
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