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    Got in it pretty hard from a stop up to about 80 and now the abs and trac off lights lit and won't go off. Guessing I broke a sensor?

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    Yep. Sounds like a bad wheel speed sensor. You now have no traction control or ABS, so if you stomp on the brakes they will lock. Get it scanned and see which hub is complaining. Could just be a loose/bad connection as well.
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    Could also (less likely) be the EBCM..... Get it scanned and go from there...
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    ABS is overrated anyway and particularly junk IMO.


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    I'm pretty sure the driver bearing is shot due to it sounding like it has mud tires on it. I'm betting that's where the sensor is bad too.

    It does have a vibration going around right hand turns also that I haven't found yet. Any ideas on this?

    Car gets drove very rarely so it takes me a bit to get problems found. I'd really like to sell it but there's too many issues for me to sell it at this point (not one to pass issues along) lol.


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    Sounds like your driverside bearing. Change it up
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    Well it did turn out to be the drivers side bearing bad which is ironic because that was the problem with the abs and trac off lights also. The wires for the sensor were ripped out of the plug.

    Now for some reason I'm noticing when you're in the go pedal there's a vibration. It does it when going straight and really bad when turning right, but doesn't seem like it does it at all when turning left?

    Possible bad axle shaft??

    It does have 4th out (shaft stripped I know, haven't had time to change it as its now my dd).




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    rotate that tire to the back, see what happens.


    when a axle goes bad you feel it when light on the gas, feels the same as a bad U joint if you ever had one go bad on rwd car.

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    That's kinda what it feels like that's why I went for axle being bad. I'll give the tire rotate a try tho cause the tires are getting pretty low!


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    if the bearing was bad, (and had play in it) the tire could have been wearing to one side or all f ed up, and now the tire is f ed up some.

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    I agree, move the tire and what not. But as far as cv axles... Both of mine were bad at the same time, and I noticed it more on heavier acceleration. I felt it all the time, but if you passed somebody, it would nearly knock ya off the road and vibrate the teeth out of your head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brandonl2000 View Post
    I agree, move the tire and what not. But as far as cv axles... Both of mine were bad at the same time, and I noticed it more on heavier acceleration. I felt it all the time, but if you passed somebody, it would nearly knock ya off the road and vibrate the teeth out of your head.

    Good luck.

    you sir let that small vibration go to long, and yours were way shot by then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottydoggs View Post
    you sir let that small vibration go to long, and yours were way shot by then.
    Oh but no. Here's how it happened. I cracked my flex plate a month after having the car. Let my dad's old boss/mechanic fix it at his house, (keep in mind it was perfect before the flex) he pulled the axles to lower the trans down on the subframe, put em back in and it was HORRIBLE. The only explanation he had was that taking them out and moving them around caused them to break. Who knows??

    Point is, two new axles and $200 somethin more dollars later it went down the road smooth as silk. And still does today.
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    Judging by Brandon's experience, mine sounds very similar. I'm gonna go ahead and move the tire and see what happens. If nothing I know it is the passenger axle as I have already replaced the drivers side. One of these days it'll be a brand new car as much as I'm putting in it lol!


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    i know what is like. little by little.

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    Yep, 4th gear and dying at cold start up are the only major issues left after this. Then its on to little I'm picky issues lol


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    The "little" things NEVER end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cummins97 View Post
    Yep, 4th gear and dying at cold start up are the only major issues left after this. Then its on to little I'm picky issues lol


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    Clean or replace the IAC and see if that helps the dying at cold starts issue. If not, then clean the TB butterfly inside and out.
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    On the issue of vibration taht you mention...I'd say right axle.
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    Thanks for the input guys! I'll get them things checked/changed and let y'all know if it fixes it!!


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