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  1. #1 how safe is top swap 
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    i want to drive my 98 gt for around 6 years as a daily driver. so i was wondering if it would be safe to top swap (without it breaking something every time i turn around)
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    you can pull it off pretty easily, but if youre like me your car will be down once a month for something stupid.
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    is the m90 kit basically the same thing
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    ssm90 kit uses the stock heads, so if you're not mechanically inclined or don't have time or what not, you just replace the intake manifold and fuel rails IIRC, and a few other little things and run it off one belt. you'll need a tune from zzp, and a lot of guys say they have trouble running a stock 3.8" pulley without headers due to higher compression. if you top swap, you have to switch the L36 heads for L67 ones
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    I debated doing it when I owned my GT. I was actually planning to, until I found a GTP I liked, and bought that instead of top swapping the gt.
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    It's very safe. A member on clubgp named dbtk had a top swapped GT that made 385ish whp without nitrous (something like 445whp w/nitrous) and the engine didn't blow up until 264k miles. If you go the SSM90 way, be prepared to spend at least $1600 on the kit and start with their 4.2" pulley.

    NA dyno: 222whp
    Novi 1000 dyno: 348whp
    Novi 2000 dyno: 372whp Best 1/4 mile: 13.2634@105.12mph
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    That SSM90 kit would be tits if you could run a Gen V and not have to buy $400 fuel rails.
    As long as you have good supporting mods and a safe tune (no KR) you should be fine. Then enjoy having 5% more power than a GTP with better gearing.
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    or invest in a snail and go even faster.
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    Mines been SSm90'ed for 5 years with not one issue. Other then the STOCK gt trans is just now slipping.
    2001 GT. A few here and there mods http://www.streetfire.net/video/2001...ynp_208097.htm

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    what supporting mods
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    Quote Originally Posted by SDgrandprixGT View Post
    what supporting mods
    When I first got the ssm90 I ran a 4.0 pulley with a plog and 3 inch downpipe. Ran that set up down to a 3.8 pulley for a year. Then got headers and went to a 3.6 and 3.5 pulley. Im now on a 3.25 pulley . below is how the car sits now


    http://www.grandprixforums.net/green...-gt-42587.html
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