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05-19-2008
yea im about to order the pcm from zzp(top end swap) and i just wanna know is it hard to install?is there anything i need to know about it?i heard something about a case learn i dont know what that is,im new and still learnin about my car.so if anybody can help me out,i'd appreciate it.thanx in advance.
05-19-2008
Why are you ordering a top end swap PCM?Originally Posted by johnnyj773
05-19-2008
isnt that when it removes your top speed from 110 and raise your shift points?like i said im new so work wit me,im learnin.
05-19-2008
oh!is that for if u swapped out your uim and stuff?
05-19-2008
Top end swap, or top swap, is where you take the top end of your engine (heads, LIM, UIM, TB, etc) and swap it for L67 (supercharged) top end parts. That way you become supercharged.
With that out of the way, a PCM isn't hard to install. Just takes 30 minutes (for the security learn) and you may need a CASE learn. Although, I recommend it be done with a PCM install anyway. Takes either a Aeroforce gauge, DHP Powrtuner, HPT may do it, or a Tech 2 type computer.
Oh, and don't over tighten the connectors.
05-19-2008
okay so i guess i have to do the l36 ss kit then.hopefully they come with instructions cuz i dont know what or how to do a sec. learn or case learn.
05-19-2008
Why?
Security learn is easy and doesn't require anything special other than your key. I know I've posted it on here before, so I'd suggest searching.
05-19-2008
i dont know cuz those are the only options.so do i pick "none selected" for option 1?and do u remember what category its posted under?
05-19-2008
Option 1 should be "None Selected".
The only option you should be messing with is Option 4 if you want (plus the others that are required).
I think it's under the PCM section.
05-20-2008
Slam me if you want, but if your doing a top swap and you wonder about doing a PCM replacement, you're going to have some problems.
05-20-2008
naw scratch that i didnt mean that,im puttin one on a n/a 00 gt.just tryin to pick the right options.
05-20-2008
PCM swap is pretty easy. Disconnect negative battery cable, remove airbox, unscrew old PCM, reverse.
05-20-2008
And, as far as the "experience/knowledge" stuff, we all had to start somewhere.
Good for you that most of the W-body forums are a good place to learn.
05-20-2008
yea im startin to appreciate cars for more than just looks now.i used to love cars with big a$$ 24's and stuff (still do but i wont drive it)im interested in learnin the internals and what makes the car go and stuff.but yea im goin to go ahead and buy that pcm this week and try it out.as far as case learn still dont know what that is.
05-20-2008
Read my explanation towards the bottom of this page.
http://www.grandprixforums.net/f18/c...ke-2977-4.html
05-20-2008
okay i have a better understanding now so i have to look that up and go buy a tuner.around how much tuners hittin for?
05-20-2008
You don't need a tuner. Go by the dealer and ask them how much for a CASE learn. It'd be a lot cheaper that way (unless you want the tuner for other reasons, they run about $400+). Tell the dealer you just changed your crank position sensor and want them to CASE learn it. Make sure they don't flash your PCM (one guy had that happen and they flashed over his new PCM file).
05-21-2008
okay got it.can i just go to any gm dealership cuz i got my car from a dodge dealership way out in the burbs and i dont feel like driving that far.and thanx man good looking out.
05-21-2008
Any GM dealership would do. You might get a better reception at a Chevy or Pontiac dealer since those brands have more "do-it-yourself" buyers.
05-22-2008
Try and save yourself $50 and see if someone close would be willing to help you do a case learn. The dealership is probably going to charge you minimal diagnosis time to do the CASE.
Just tryin' to save you a little cash.
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